The Lancaster, Lancashire etc Surname DNA project.
Results from the R1 haplogroup
Welcome to one of the results webpages of our genealogical DNA project for several Northern English surnames, which are especially associated with the historic county of Lancashire, especially Lancaster group of surnames including Lanchester, Lancashire, Lankshear, Lankester, etc. Click for the homepage.
This page is about results for all the results in Haplogroup R1 (R-M173), which includes R1b and R1a, the most common male lines amongst men of European ancestry.
This project is a volunteer-run genealogical project, open to all families potentially affiliated with any surnames potentially related to those mentioned. It is run by participants, for participants, and affiliated with ISOGG, and not any single commercial lab. (We are recognized by most major testing companies working with genealogists.) This webpage and most associated with it are kept up-to-date, more-or-less, by Andrew Lancaster. The project and its webpages are work in progress, and may contain errors. If you think you see something you want to copy, please contact the author (firstname.lastname@example.org) to give us a chance to update you on the latest possibilities.
R-M173 is much more common and is indeed the most common haplotype by far in northern and western Europe. In most surname projects for British surnames it dominates. There are two main branches, R1b, which dominates in Western Europe, and R1a, which is more important from Eastern Europe all the way to India. The European R1b population is dominated by R-L42, which appears to have arrived from the Middle East.
Because R1b is so common it is worth pointing out that matches should be viewed critically, and some of our results below are only for 12 markers, which is not usually enough for high confidence. Nevertheless, there are certainly some important groupings we have managed to define with very high confidence, using more markers.
R1b GROUP 1.
York/New Kent & Henrico County, VA, Lancasters
Note: From a DNA point of view the first 12 markers show extremely common values – the most common of all amongst European male lines. It is very important to compare more markers in such cases. SNP testing however has shown that this is in the R1b branch defined by M167, also known as SRY2627. This put this family in haplogroup R1b1b2a1a2c (formerly R1b1c6), which is relatively unusual in Britain, though closely related to other R1b types which are more common there. It appears to be more common in the region of the Pyrenees Mountains.
The closest matches to this Lancaster family are a Venable family descended from Abram Venable who came from Devonshire to Virginia in the late 1600s (d. 1710 Hanover, New Kent County). They are also M167+. The Venable surname originates with a Norman family who settled first in Cheshire, next to Lancashire. The particular DNA matches are from a family who, like the Lancasters they match, immigrated early to America. Two other close matches with the surnames Clausen and Knauer are known to come from adoptions. A key to the connections and possible connections is as follows…
1a. York/New Kent County Lancasters: Gowan Lancaster arrived in America in 1635 and lived in York Co. and is one of the earliest Lancasters in America who is known to have founded a lasting family.
Gowan, or Gawen, etc, named John in one document after his death, came to America in 1635 at the age of 28 aboard the Transport. Gowen’s name is a relatively unusual variant of Gawain, as per the King Arthur stories. The name Gowen Lancaster has been found over several generations and parishes in Cumberland, both before and after the founding of this line in America. It seems reasonable therefore to suggest that Gowen’s ancestry is in Cumberland. But apart from several theories, his origins in Britain are not yet really known.
Between 1635 and Gowen’s later appearances in records, an Owen Lancaster, otherwise unaccounted for, appears in records concerning Richmond Co. Virginia. More certainly, once Gowen appears in the York Co. records in the 1640s, at his death he left orphan children, one of whom was a son, often referred to now as Robert Lancaster, Sr. The family is also recorded as having a presence in New Kent Co. where the Venables family come from. Robert also had two daughters. He lived quite close to Henrico Co., in York Co. Might Robert have been the father or grandfather of John Lancaster of Henrico Co?
Lancaster Kit 117324. Ancestors of this family moved from Virginia to Woodford, KY, in the 1830s or before.
Ancestry Kit 3. Parts of this family lived in Fayette, Owen, and Jefferson Counties, KY since early in the 19th century.
Ancestry Kit 5. Now living in Texas, these Lancasters came during several generations from Virginia to Tennessee to Arkansas to the Lone Star State.
Ancestry5’s Y-DNA values are a perfect match to those of Ancestry3 with 37 markers compared, but his paper trail appears to connect through the Henrico Lancasters as follows: Rogers Lee Lancaster>Charles L Lancaster>William Henry "Buck" Lancaster>Avery King Lancaster>Robert A Lancaster Sr>John Jr. Lancaster>John Sr. Lancaster>Robert Jr. Lancaster>Robert Sr. Lancaster>John Gowan Lancaster.
Lancaster Kit 125599. John Henry Lancaster is listed on the 1880 Jackson, Tennessee census as an orphan. It is believed that he is related to Lancasters living in the area before the Civil War, and it appears that he descends from Gowan Lancaster. Our participant’s current thinking is that John Henry Lancaster was the son of John Lancaster of 1822 in Pendleton Co., Kentucky and Naomi (Oma or Orma) Cherry.
1b. Henrico County Lancasters: The simplified view of this family found in many online trees is that John Lancaster was born about 1700 and married Frances Allen. He Lived in Henrico Co, Virginia and died about 1770.
Most descendents of John Lancaster are thought to now live in Texas and Arkansas. "Lancaster-Smith-TN was named for one of these folks and there are still a few in that area." It is frequently claimed that John Lancaster was a Factor for the firm of Hyndman & Lancaster, 10 Gould St, London, which was heavily involved with Virginia. However I have not found any evidence for his link to the partner of this company, whose name was Richard Lancaster.
What we have found however, first in the DNA, and then by looking for a paper trail with the help of Nancy Mathews, is a probable link to another Virginia Lancaster family, that of Gowen Lancaster. We have explained some paper trail ideas on a separate webpage, but in summary the theory makes John the same man as John Lancaster of nearby Hanover Co. It would make him the son of Robert Lancaster Junior, who in turn was the grandson of Gowan Lancaster. Robert Lancaster Jr. would then be the common ancestor of all the families of the York/New Kent/Henrico Lancaster group.
Another aspect of the revised picture of the Lancaster family of Henrico County, VA proposed by Nancy Mathews is that John of Henrico had children not by one, but by two wives, Mary (Unknown) and Frances Allen. The John Lancaster Jr. (1730-1800) from whom the owner of Kit 206798 descends, was in Nancy’s analysis a son of John’s first wife, Mary, who was also the mother of a daughter, Joyce, and another son, Nathaniel. John of Henrico’s second wife, Frances Allen, was the mother of William Allen Lancaster (1737-1860), from whom most of our Henrico Lancaster Y-DNA participants descend.
Lancaster Kit N6407. Our participant lives in Mississippi and is a descendant of William Allen Lancaster, Jr., son of William Allen Lancaster, Sr.
He descends from Orville O. Lancaster, who was born about1859 in Arkansas and died about 1897 in Mississippi.
Lancaster Kit 158459. This family traces its descent from Samuel Lancaster, son of William Allen Lancaster, Sr., son of John Lancaster (1694-1770).
Lancaster Kit 29696. This participant descends from William Allen Lancaster Jr, son of William Allen Lancaster Sr, son of John Lancaster.
Lancaster Kit 188825. During several generations this family migrated from Virginia, to Tennessee, to Missouri, and to Texas by the early 20th century.
Starting with our participant’s grandfather, his lineage going backward is as follows: Robert Roy Lancaster > Robert F Lancaster > James Lancaster > William Allen Lancaster Jr. > William Allen Lancaster Sr. > John Lancaster (1694-1770).
Lancaster Kit 206798. This family is from Arkansas, having moved there from Tennessee, to which they had previously migrated from Henrico County, VA.
Lancaster Kit 90681. Adoption
Lancaster Kit 102197. Adoption (Venable)
R1b GROUP 2.
The Catholic Lancasters of Charles County, Maryland.
Descendants of Captain John Lancaster, Jr. (d. 1760), who became resident in Maryland in the early 1700s, along with his brother Joseph, also a ship’s captain.
This is an important Catholic family from colonial times in Maryland. Many US Lancasters descend from John. It seems quite likely that this family descends from the Lancasters of Rainhill, Lancashire, many of whom were also Catholics in this period – something which was not common in England at the time. Indeed, such families faced official harassment, and lost many of their rights. We have a separate webpage about research into the Rainhill family, and another webpage about their possible links to this Maryland Lancaster family. The project has confirmed the matching DNA signatures of one line descending through John’s son John Sr. and two lines descending from his son Raphael:-
Lancaster Kit 182026. This kit belongs to a descendant of John Lancaster Sr. (1738-1794), eldest son of Captain John (d. 1760).
John Sr.’s descendants apparently remained mostly in Maryland. Counting backward and starting with our participant’s grandfather, his ancestors were as follows: John Jenkins Lancaster > Simon Spearman Lancaster > Ignatius A Lancaster > Charles I Lancaster > John Sr. Lancaster > Captain John Lancaster, Jr. (d. 1760).
PEDIGREE SUMMARY. Our participant is 7 generations down from Captain John Lancaster, Jr. (d. 1760).
Lancaster Kit 109657. A descendant of Raphael Sr. Lancaster, who moved his family from Maryland to Kentucky shortly after the American Revolutionary War.
PEDIGREE SUMMARY. Our participant is thought to be 7 generational steps down from Captain John Lancaster (d. 1760) and 6 steps from Raphael Sr.
Lancaster Kit 166164. Another descendant of Raphael Lancaster. Some members of this branch reside today in the vicinity of Louisville, Ky.
Our participant descends from Patrick Raphael Jr.>Patrick Raphael Sr.>Raphael John>John Raphael>Raphael Jr.>Raphael Sr.>Captain John Jr. (d. 1760).
PEDIGREE SUMMARY. There are eight generational steps back to John Lancaster (b. bef. 1687), the immigrant founder of this line in America, seven steps to Captain John Lancaster (d. 1760), and six steps to Raphael Lancaster, Sr, (d. 1801) who moved his family from Maryland to Kentucky about 1785.
R1b GROUP 3.
Lancasters of IOW/Surry, Virginia, and English Families from Kendal and Birmingham
3a. Quakers and West Midlands Connections.
These haplotypes are all for Quaker families with a connection to Birmingham in England. Two are connected by known pedigree. They do not have many known close matches for 37 or 67 markers, except Lancasters. Genetically though, they are clearly quite distant relatives to the rest of this group that we have found so far.
Lancaster Kit 122216 belongs to is a descendant of Thomas Lancaster (1702-1750), Quaker, of Warwickshire, England, who settled in Bucks County, PA, about 1711 as an orphan approximately nine years of age. Evidence has been found suggesting a possible connection to James Lancaster, associate of Quaker leader, George Fox, when he visited America in the 1670s. Some researchers also believe Thomas was from the same family as Joseph Lancaster, the famous educator.
Lancaster Kit 135052 is for another descendant of Thomas Lancaster (1702-1750), Quaker, of Warwickshire, England, who settled in Bucks County, PA, about 1711 and fathered 13 children with his wife, Phebe Wardell.
Lancaster Kit 35091. Thomas Henry Lancaster (1854-1927) came to the USA from Worcestershire near Birmingham (Kings Heath and Kings Norton). His father was William Lancaster (1818 - ?) and seems to have been born in the same area (perhaps the son of John Lancaster and Sarah).
Tony and Carol Murphy believe John Lancaster might be the one who married Sarah Knight on 17 June 1810 in St Martin, and this is as far back as we have gotten so far.
3b. The descendants of John Lancaster (b. Guisborough Yorkshire) and Mary Forster through their son, John Lancaster (b. 1801), Darlington, Durham. A very good source of information on this family is a recent book by Marjorie Williams, Emma Laura Lancaster (1874-1942) and her Ancestors, which focuses on the descendants of John. Some members of this family were noted photographers active in the development of photography in England in the 19th century.
Ancestry Kit 6. Ancestry Kit 6 belongs to a Canadian participant whose ancestry is traced to John Lancaster (b. 1801) of Darlington.
Lancaster Kit 167531.This participant is from an Australian family who descend from John Lancaster (b. 1801) of Darlington.
3c. The descendants of Henry Lancaster, who lived in Kendal in the early 1800s.
Lancaster Kit 126208 is the project’s closest Y-DNA match to the Lancasters of IOW/Surry, Virginia. Only two one-step differences exist with one of the Surry County participants when comparing 111 markers.
Our participating family is from Maine in the USA, but our participant’s grandfather's name was Joseph C Lancaster. Joseph died in Corinna, Penobscot, Maine From this information we could confirm a family legend of a connection to Kendal in England. From censuses we could find that his father's name was also Joseph. This family, containing Joseph senior and junior, had moved to Maine from New York in the late 1800s. Joseph senior and his parents and eldest siblings were all born in England. The names and ages of the children gave us a means to go further back,
Most of the family appear to have arrived in New York on the ship Compromise, 20 Oct 1858. It had departed Liverpool. However, looking after the family was apparently a man named William Lancaster, who was 26 at the time and therefore significantly younger than Elizabeth, the mother.
David Hall writes of the earliest we could trace so far…
Henry was married twice it seems. He first married Esther Simpson at Kendal in 1824 and they had at least 4 children, John born 1825/6 (who later married Elizabeth and emigrated), James bapt 1827 at Kendal, Charlotte bapt 1829 at Kendal, and William bapt 1831 at Kendal Methodist. This William being John's brother was probably the William who was on the ship to NY in 1858 as he is the correct age accompanying John's wife Elizabeth and children.
Henry married secondly to Ann Collinson in 1836 at Kendal. Henry and Ann had Peter bapt 1837 at Kendal Methodist, followed by Thomas in 1839/40 and Henry in 1845/6 and possibly others.
Unfortunately I cannot find Henry's baptism and he died before the 1851 census so we do not know where he was born.
PEDIGREE SUMMARY. Tracing back from our participant, there are 5 generation steps to Henry Lancaster of Kendal.
3d. The Isle of Wight Co./ Surry Co. Lancasters
Most or all of these seem to descend from an identifiable founder, who therefore deserves a heading of his own…
Robert Lancaster, whose name (signed with his mark) appears on a 1652 petition as Robert Lancashire, is generally said to have arrived in Isle of Wight Co., Virginia, shortly before 1652. His descendants are a major American Lancaster family, covering several families in this project.
We now have a separate webpage for discussion of what is known of the founder of this family. Here is a key to the connections and probable connections:
3d.i. The descendants of Robert Senior’s son, Robert Lancaster (Junior)…
Lancaster Kit 142260. This Lancaster family settled in Mississippi, arriving there in the 1830s directly from Franklin County, North Carolina. They descend from Laurence Lancaster, great-grandson of Robert Lancaster (d. 1720) of Surry County, Virginia.
Lancaster Kit 165413. This Lancaster family emigrated from Northampton County, NC, to Christian (now Trigg) County, KY, near the end of the War of 1812, joining several members of the wife’s family who had gone there before the war. Levi Lancaster, the first of the Trigg County Lancasters, was a school teacher, attorney, and county court official.
Lancaster Kit 113701. This Lancaster family is from the Pulaski County, Georgia, contingent. The family moved from Virginia to North Carolina to Georgia in the 18th Century. The first of the Pulaski County Lancasters was William Sanders Lancaster (1760-1813). He was born in Northampton County, NC, and then moved with his Quaker family to Dobbs, then Wayne Co. NC, before the American War of Independence. He eventually rejected Quakerism.
Lancaster Kit 105722. Telfair County, Georgia, is the home of this family, which is actually a branch of the Pulaski County Lancasters. They moved from Pulaski County to Telfair County in the 19th century. Wright Lancaster was a Baptist Minister who made the move to Telfair.
3d.ii. The descendants of Robert Senior’s son, Samuel Sr. Lancaster, via his son, also named Robert…
A relatively unusual single step mutation is clearly distinctive in two of the lines of Robert son of Samuel, DYS385 is 12-15 instead of the more common 11-15. That it does not appear in the other line is suggestive that there may be a one generation error in the paper trails we have?
Lancaster Kit 87890. The earliest Lancaster settlers of the Orangeburg/Barnwell District of South Carolina, ca. 1785, were: Jesse Lancaster who received his first State Grant in 1785, Robert Lancaster, who received his first State Grant in1787 and Joseph Lancaster, who received his State Grant ca. 1787. This family probably descends from Jesse Lancaster, Sr. through his son, Jesse Lancaster, Jr., born ca. 1795 through his son, Lewis Larkin Lancaster, born Barnwell District, ca. 1815. He appears to be closely related to Kit 193072.
Kit 130313 (formerly Ancestry Kit 1). This Tennessee family descends from Benjamin Lancaster, Sr., grandson of Samuel, Sr.
Ancestry Kit 2. This family from northern Georgia descends from Isaac Lancaster, grandson of Hartwell Lancaster, Sr.
Lancaster Kit 166866. This Kansas family descends from Robert Lancaster, Sr., the brother of Benjamin, Sr., and Hartwell, Sr.
Lancaster Kit 193072. This South Carolina family descends from a grandson of Samuel Sr, Henry Lancaster, who might be his most recent common ancestor with Kit 87890.
Lancaster Kit 223468. A perfect Y-DNA match with Kit 130313 through 67 markers, our participant descends from John H Lancaster, grandson of Hartwell, Sr. Our participant’s immediate ancestors lived in Rome, GA.
R1b GROUP 4.
The Cecil County, MD, and Craven County, NC, Lancasters
Members of this Lancaster family were living in Craven County, NC, at the end of the 18th century. They trace their descent from James Benjamin Lancaster (1765-1805), whose immediate ancestors are unidentified. DNA evidence has shown them not to be direct male line descendants of the IOW/Surry County, VA, Lancasters as some had speculated. Research to determine whether they might descend from Lancasters who lived in Charleston, SC, earlier in the 18th century has so far been inconclusive. A breakthrough came in May 2012 when Y-DNA results reported for a participant descended from an important Lancaster family that settled in 17th century Cecil County, Maryland, showed a close match with the Craven County Lancasters. Consequently, we now believe the Craven County, NC, Lancasters are a branch of the Cecil County Lancaster family of Maryland.
Lancaster Kit 234688. Our participant lives in Missouri. He has traced his descent back, starting with his father, to Henry Lancaster (1657-1717) as follows: George J Lancaster > Benjamin F Lancaster > Sinclair/ St. Clair Lancaster > William Lancaster > Isaac A Lancaster > Samuel Sinclair Lancaster > Benjamin Lancaster > Henry Lancaster (1657-1717).
PEDIGREE SUMMARY. There are 8 generational steps from our participant to Henry Lancaster (1657-1717).
Lancaster Kit 135053. Our participant descends from John Marion>James Thomas Jr.>James Thomas Sr.>Jacob>Jesse>James Benjamin Lancaster (1765-1805).
PEDIGREE SUMMARY. There are 6 generational steps from our participant back to James Benjamin Lancaster (1765-1805), the earliest documented ancestor of this line, and five steps back to Jesse, their most recent common ancestor.
Lancaster Kit 134285. Our participant’s line of descent is from Wade Thornton>Roscoe Ollerson>Edward Augustus>William>Jesse>James Benjamin Lancaster (1765-1805).
PEDIGREE SUMMARY. There are 6 generational steps back to James Benjamin Lancaster (1765-1805), their earliest documented ancestor, and 5 generational steps back to their most recent common ancestor, Jesse Lancaster.
R1b GROUP 5
The Pateley Bridge, Wath Lancasters
Lancaster Kit 133069. John Lancaster, the Great, Great, Grandfather of our participant, was buried in front of St Cuthberts in Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire, with a large headstone overlooking the city. John’s father, William Longster (1756-1816, and his grandfather, William Lancaster/Longcaster (d. Bef. 21 September 1806) lived near Pateley Bridge at Wath.
It is believed that his line goes back to Robert Lancaster of Ramsgill who had substantial holdings, and that further back they might have migrated from the North and worked their way down the Nidderdale Valley to Pateley Bridge.
Lancaster Kit 192431. Our participant, the late uncle of our contact, Chris Wright, is a descendant of the same family from which Kit 133069 descends.
R1b Lancaster Individuals not yet in groups.
Lancaster Kit 73408 has been traced back to 1818 in Leighton Buzzard in Bedfordshire, and is thought to go back to the family of Sir James Lancaster of Basingstoke in Hampshire whose will was dated 18 April 1618.
Our participant is English but a branch of this family is thought to have emigrated to the USA in the mid-1800s, descending from one Levi Lancaster. I am presuming so far that this family is the one which can be seen in easy-to-find records starting with the marriage of Robert Lancaster and Charlotte Pantling, 26 November 1812 in Leighton Buzzard? Robert and his descendants lived in Eggington, just outside Leighton Buzzard, with the Pantlings as neighbours, at least in 1841. Robert is shown in the 1861 and 1871 censuses as being born in Eaton Bray. Various online family trees trace the line further back in Chalgrave, with Robert being the son of a John Lancaster and a Martha Lake, and then in turn to William Lancaster and Mary Cook.
Kit 73408 has 37 markers tested. This is a fairly typical R1b1c DNA signature, and therefore typical of most Western European families, but it is not close enough to anyone that we can confidently connect this family to any other in this project or any other. Perhaps more markers would give a different impression, but most likely this is a separate Lancaster family from all our others.
Lancaster Kit 104900. This Lancaster family is from the area of Spartanburg in South Carolina. Our participant descends from Linder Lancaster, the son of William Abel Lancaster. They are a branch of the IOW/Surry County, VA, Lancasters.
The two families from South Carolina (Kit 104900 and Kit 87890 in Group 3) do not match, although both are R1b, and the Lancasters of the area were thought of as one family. This was finally explained by Lancaster genealogist Nancy Mathews. This family, to quote her, is…
out of Laurence Lancaster, lineage... However his DNA will show out of the Maternal side... he goes back to Eliza Jane Lancaster (who never married) and had children... then one of her daughters (Maryann Caroline Lancaster, a twin) never married and had children (which one is Wm. A. Lancaster (b. abt. (1878) he married Minnie (?) and had two children in 1900 census, one Gertrude age 2 yrs., and Linder Lancaster 4/12 mos.
Eliza’s line back to the Isle of Wight is as follows, according to Nancy: Eliza>Joel Sr.>Larkin Sr.>Samuel Sr.>Laurence Sr.>William>Robert Jr.>Robert Sr.
Lancaster Kit 129601. This family descends from the well known Lancasters of Sockbridge, and is related to David Hall, a researcher associated with this project. This means they can be traced back to William fitz Gilbert de Lancaster I (alive in the 1100s) by paper trail.
It will be an aim of the project to confirm that we have defined the main Sockbridge male line by testing people who can be distantly connected by pedigree. This family traces back to Arthur born about 1550 (alive 1566 - 1609) who was the son of Edward Lancaster of Sockbridge (known from will of Edward proved 1571). Edward is the son of the William Lancaster of Sockbridge who married Elizabeth Lowther about 1494. See our Sockbridge page: http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Lancasters%20of%20Sockbridge.html
This family lived for several generations in the area of Kirkland and Culgaith in Cumberland. Our participant lives in England.
Lancaster Kit 181802. This family descends from Joseph, son of Robert, who lived in Winstanley near Wigan, Lancashire in the 1700s.
The family is thought to have moved around before arriving in the Wigan area, for example Lyth and Crosthwaite, and the area of Alston and Garrigill in the high moors on the border of Cumberland (and modern Cumbria). These leads come from poor law removal certificates.
Lancashire Kit via http://dna.ancestry.com . This family has been traced back to Frederick Lancashire, born about 1812 on the Strand in London.
Our participant maintains a family tree on www.ancestry.com Also see http://www.82120.com/p2.html#I094. This family remained for several generations in the general area of London.
Lankshear Kit 134418 . This family has been traced back to Robert Lanchishear who married Frances Dawson in Clanfield Oxfordshire in 1713.
Our participant maintains genealogical webpages at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/.
Ancestry Kit 4. Before settling in Texas after 1900, this family migrated from Virginia through Tennessee, Arkansas, and Oklahoma. An online pedigree shows our participant 7 generations down from John Lancaster (1694-1770) of Henrico, but Ancestry4 is not a close Y-DNA match to any other participant.
Lancaster Kit 180073. The owner of Kit 180073 descends from James Lancaster b. 1772 in Walton le Back, Lancashire. Some trees show James (b. 1772) as the son of John and Mary Lancaster, b. perhaps about 1750. Our participant's 2nd great grandfather, Richard Lancaster (1837-1893), born in Whittle le Woods, Lancashire, emigrated to the US in 1888, settling in Buffalo, NY. This was the second time members of this Lancashire family emigrated to the United States. A generation earlier, a son of James Lancaster (b. 1772), also named James Lancaster, had made a new home in the US state of Massachusetts. He died in Taunton, MA, in 1859, leaving a wife and several children.
Lancaster Kit 140982. This family descends from John V Lancaster, who was born before. 1738, probably in IOW/Surry Co. VA.,-and died before Aug 1813.
This family appears to be related to the Surry Co. Lancasters, despite being in a completely different male line. Lancaster genealogist Nancy Matthews says “this family is intermingling way to much to be a different Lancaster line. They are in 3 different county's documents together, so his family was moving with Laurence Lancaster's family”. She believes that it is most likely that John V. Lancaster was a nephew of Laurence Lancaster, his mother either dying of child birthing in 1739 or the flu in 1740 and that John V. Lancaster remained close to his uncle, being his only living relative. The family divided, step mother, Mary Womble Lancaster and half sister Ann, moving into Sussex Co., VA and Laurence and John V. moving into North Carolina.