The Hampshire Ancestors of Emma Barnett of the Macleay River in NSW

These are genealogical notes by Andrew Lancaster. (My main page.) They may contain errors!
Reference will be made below to at least some of the many people who have helped me gather an idea of the Southern English part of my ancestry. It is not all my own work.

Emma Barnett and her sister Elizabeth married two Robinson brothers, George and John, on the lower Macleay River in Northern New South Wales. The marriages were on 4 Aug 1875 (reference 2917/1875) and 16 Jul 1879 (reference 3576/1879) and both took place in what was then simply called the Macleay River District. (Today this is similar to Kempsey Shire.) Concerning the Robinson family, I have made another webpage.

George and Emma were my Great Great Grandparents. In order to study them I have had a lot of help, initially from relatives I knew, especially Rick and Eleanor Lancaster, Nance Curry, and Barbara Worthington. But with the Barnetts I have also been especially surprised at how widespread my contacts have become. The family from which they descend in England seems to have been quietly successful, and spread around the world in the 19th century. Thanks for example must go to Marion Warren who lives in Hatch Farm in Headley (it appears her Warrens are related to mine, but it is not yet proven).

Perhaps my most important correspondents of all have been Graham Barnett, a member of the family as it still exists in the lower Macleay, and John Owen Smith, whose local history website on the Headley area in Hampshire is exemplary, and whose attention to his many correspondents from around the world is a wonder of nature! At the time of writing the webpage at www.johnowensmith.co.uk/headley/index.htm seems to be down. Hopefully this is temporary, but if not, old copies can be found using the internet "wayback machine". For example click here: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.johnowensmith.co.uk/headley/index.htm.

1. Emma's parents and siblings.

Emma's parents were William Barnett and Jane Warren. They had married back in Headley, Hampshire, in England on 7 Jun 1845. John Owen Smith informs me that the witnesses were John Channell & Caroline Baker. Jane's father was a paper-maker named John Warren, and she lived in Barford. William was a labourer, living in Arford. This might be a good time to check the map, for example the one from John Owen Smith's website which I hotlink here:-

They travelled to Australia on the "Emperor" in 1848, with two sons John, 1 year old, and William who was 2. William senior was marked as 27 (b. abt 1821) while Jane was 19 years old (b. Abt 1829). It is a pattern I see often in my family tree for this period: a couple not long married, leaving the home with a newborn. Once in Australia they continued having children, and apparently had 11 in all.

Concerning the English births, the baptism of William junior is certainly that in Headley on 31 August 1845, but there were apparently two William/Jane couples having children there in that case. (The other Jane is mentioned in one register entry as having the maiden name Woods. The 1841 census, made before the marriage of our ancestors, shows the other family clearly.) For the baptism of John it appears that William and Jane had already left their ancestral home. So the children of William and Jane were:

1. William Henry Barnett. Born 5 August 1845, (baptised 31 August, registered 14 September) in Headley. They were residents, it seems, of Barford, the part of Headley where Jane's family was resident. Died 2 August 1927 in Gumma Hill, Macksville, Australia (just to the north of the Macleay River). Was buried in Frederickton.

m. Jane Hibbard 8 September 1868 in Gladstone.

2. John Barnett. Born about 1847 in England. Died 5 July 1918 and buried in Frederickton on the Macleay River in Australia.
3. Jane Barnett. b. 3 May 1851, Austral Eden, d. 5 May 1915, Sydney.

m. John Hibbard in 1871.

4. Emma Barnett. b. 22 October 1852 in Austral Eden, along the Macleay River, Australia; d. 27 December 1931 in South West Rocks (near the mouth of the Macleay river).

m. George Robinson in 1875

5. Mary Anne Barnett (also referred to as Maryanne or Anne). b. 18 February 1855 in Austral Eden. Died 25 Oct , 1935 age 80. Buried in Frederickton.

m. Peter Weiri in 1893. Died 2 Mar 1927 age 68.

6. Elizabeth Barnett. b. 7 November 1857 at Austral Eden.

m. John Robinson (brother of George Robinson) in 1879

7. James Barnett. b. 10 September 1859 at Austral Eden, d. 1866 at 7 years of age.

8. Lucilla Barnett (also Loucella). b. 4 April 1862, April Eden, d. 22 January 1912. Buried in Frederickton.
9. Thomas Barnett. b. 4 August 1865, Lower Macleay, d. 25 August 1948, Gladstone, Macleay River

m. Eleanor L Woolford in 1890.

10. Henry Barnett. b. 2 July 1869 (1868?), Waterloo Plains, Macleay River. d. 28 June 1947.

m. Maria Louisa Patterson 7 Dcember 1892 at Waterloo Plains.

11. Albert Barnett. b. 10 July 1871, Waterloo Plains, d. 1951

m. Jane Pugh 10 November 1909 in Belmore River.

...next stop then, must be England...

2. Emma's father's family, the Barnetts.

Barnett is a common name all over England, and can not even be called typically northern or southern. In most cases, it was originally just a patronymic surname (a surname based upon the name of a patriarch father somewhere back in the family) which is just a variant spelling of the personal name Bernard, which is why the traditional pronunciation is like "Barn-ut", and not Barn-ette. Although, as I heard from Graham Barnett, the spelling has led families to accept flexibility in the way they pronounce their name! The name Bernard is today more associated with continental Europe, but it was once very popular in England also. I mention this first because the commonness of the surname is a factor in trying to trace our Barnett ancestors. What's more, again as pointed out to me by Graham, we find Barnard and other spellings in the Headley region which may well in fact be Barnett relatives. (See below.) On the other hand, the Oxford Dictionary of English Surnames points out that there are medieval records of people called "atte (at) Barnet" and similar, which shows that at least some people took their name from a placename, apparently meaning "burned" and referring to places originally cleared by burning. There are several places called Barnett or Barnet. The ones listed by Oxford are mainly in south eastern England, Surrey, Hertfordshire, Middlesex, so they are close to our area of interest.

William Barnett, as we have seen, must have been born about 1821 according to his age at emigration. His NSW death registration #5950 in 1899 mentions that his mother was Catherine and that he was 80 years old in 1899 (born about 1819). We would expect to find that he was born in 1820, and that is indeed what we find.

5 March 1820 Headley, Hampshire, William Barnett son of John and Catherine was baptised. They were resident in Arford, which is also where William was resident with his parents in the 1841 census, as a 20 year old agricultural labourer, and also when he married in 1845.

The family of William Barnett's parents and siblings can be reconstructed with a high degree of certainty because of the cross-referencing possible between censuses and registers.

John Barnett married Catherine Sandhurst in Frensham parish, just over the border in Surrey 31 December 1814. Both signed with a mark rather than with a written signature. The witnesses, who also signed with a mark, were Wm and Mary Hammond. Although said to be residents of Frensham at that time John and Catherine clearly had their children in Headley. Using John Owen Smith's transcriptions of the baptismal registers, they were as follows...

1816/11/10      Barnett, John      s/o John/Catherine      Lab      Parish House 

[John Owen Smith note: "?bur 25 Feb 1820 age 3"]

1818/06/28      Barnett, Celia      d/o John/Catherine      Broom Maker  Arford
1820/03/05      Barnett, William  s/o John/Catherine      Lab      Arford
1821/10/19      Barnett, Eliza      d/o John/Catherine      Lab      Arford
1824/02/27      Barnett, Thomas      s/o John/Catherine      Lab      Arford
1826/10/07      Barnett, James      s/o John/Catherine      Lab      Arford
1828/06/22      Barnett, Edward      s/o John/Catherine      Lab      Arford
1830/06/16      Barnett, Mary      d/o John/Catherine      Lab      Arford        Married George Elstone, 9 Sep 1849
1832/10/28      Barnett, Richard  s/o John/Catherine      Lab      Arford 

[John Owen Smith note: "bur 7 May 1834"]

1834/12/28      Barnett, Emma      d/o John/Catherine      Lab      Arford 

[John Owen Smith note: "youngest of 10 children; married George Holden 1855"]

A few years after they stopped having children, the censuses started. In 1841 we find them in their village of Arford within Headley parish...

John Barnett            44 years old     Ag. Lab. born in county (Hampshire)
Catherine Barnett     45 years old     born in county
William Barnett        20 years old    Ag. Lab. born in county
Thomas Barnett       15 years old    Ag. Lab. born in county
James Barnett         14 years old    [Ag Lab crossed out] born in county
Edward Barnett        12 years old    born in county
Mary Barnett            10 years old    born in county
Emily Barnett             6 years old    born in county
Richard Barnett          2 years old    born in county

(There were quite a few Barnetts living nearby.)

Notice that there is a new Richard living in this family. This can be traced by looking at the registers. 7 March 1839, this Richard was baptised to Eliza, apparently a single mother of Arford, who is probably a close relative of John and Catherine. As per the note of John Owen Smith, this Eliza seems to have passed away and been buried before the 1841 census, on 6 May 1840. Eliza Barnett of Arford also perhaps had a previous child, baptised 9 April 1828 and named Elizabeth. This Elizabeth had been buried as an infant, 25 Aug 1828.

Not long after the 1841 census, on 10 Sep 1843, John Barnett passed away at the age of 46, in Arford. So he does not appear in the next census in 1851, by which time also of course our William had moved to Australia.. Instead we find..

Catherine Barnett 60 years old, showing a big discrepancy with the normally less accurate 1841 census. Her birth place is now shown as "Fernhurst Sussex" by ancestry.com and "Farnham Surrey" by John Owen Smith. I have seen the handwriting and it is not clear. I tend to think that the county was Sussex rather than Surrey. In any case she was from over the county border nearer to where she married (and to the place called Sandhurst, like her family name).
Thomas Barnett 26 years old, born Headley. Miller's Laborer (hard to read). Son of Catherine.
Edward Barnett 22 years old, born Headley. Miller's Laborer (hard to read). Son of Catherine.
Richard Barnett 11 years old old, born Headley. Scholar. Grandson of Catherine.

In 1861 Catherine Barnett was 73 years old. Funnily enough, this time I read her birth county as "Sussex" and John Owen Smith reads "Surrey", but in any case the parish name seems to be Linchmere. She is a Laborer's widow. Still with her are Edward, now a 28 year old bricklayer's labourer, and Richard, now 20 and also a bricklayer's labourer.

In 1871 "Kate Barnet" is an 85 year old pauper in Arford, Headley who had been born in Linchmere Sussex. She is living next to the Barnett family of a William Barnett, 33. On this occasion John Owen Smith also reads "Sussex", but notes that it should be Surrey. Linchmere, like the Headley/Bramshott area, is on the border of 3 counties. See http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/SSX/Linchmere/

I could also trace the death certificate of Catherine Barnett. She was 86 when she passed away on 5th December 1872 in Headley (so born about 1786). The registration states that she was the widow of John Barnett, Farm Laborer.

It is interesting that Catherine's implied birth gets earlier and earlier as she gets older. In 1841, she was said to have been born about 1796. In 1851 it is 1791. In 1861, it is 1788. In 1871 and 1872 she is said to have been born about 1796. Very roughly she was born about 1790.

Concerning John Barnett, his death certificate suggests he was born around 1797, in Hampshire. In Headley itself (though no record I know specifies that he was born there) there was a baptism on the 16th of February 1796, to James Barnett and Sarah. This suits pretty well, but it is an isolated entry. The name Barnett suddenly became common in Headley registers in the 1790s after a long absence. The couple James and Sarah only appear this once. However there had been a baptism to a child of James and Margret a few years before, and later comes a series of children of James and Elizabeth. Putting aside these couples with a James, there is also Thomas and Elizabeth, which is probably the same as Thomas and Betty, and also John and Elizabeth.

The standard theory concerning our Barnetts was explained to me by Graham Barnett, who cited previous work by D. Pedgley and Pamela Tancred. I have gone through and corrected and added some dates which seemed wrong or perhaps lacking. James Barnett, is explained as follows.

James Barnett, labourer, married Margaret Clear, 31 May 1787 in Binstead near Alton. I have not yet been able to check the Kingsley baptisms, but these are said to be their children...

??Jake 1788 in Kingsley
Mgt 1788 in Kingsley
Anna Maria Barnett 24 February 1791 in Headley,
Maria 1792 in Kingsley
James 1793 in Kingsley (there was a burial for a James Barnett in Kingsley on 7 Mar 1794).

Margaret Barnett was buried 13 July 1793 in Kingsley

James Barnett married Sarah Hockley, 5 May 1794, in Binstead, near Alton

John Barnett baptised 16th of February 1796, to James Barnett and Sarah in Headley. 

Sarah Barnett was buried 22 October 1798 in Kingsley.
James then wed Elizabeth Harding 26 March 1799 in Headley and had more children. Using John Owen Smith's format...

1801/02/14 Barnett James s/o James/Elizabeth    (there was a burial for a James Barnett in Kingsley on  16 Mar 1802)  
1802/06/29 Barnett Elizabeth d/o James/Elizabeth      
1804/11/16 Barnett Sarah s/o James/Elizabeth      
1805/10/19 Barnett Mary d/o James/Elizabeth      
1807/12/28 Barnett Jane d/o James/Elizabeth      
1810/05/12 Barnett Hannah d/o James/Elizabeth      

And then we get a triple baptism in Headley, presumably meaning these children had been born much earlier...

1820/03/19  Barnett   Dinia [Diana]   d/o   James/Elizabeth      Lab      Land of Nod       
1820/03/19  Barnett   Eliza d/o    James/Elizabeth     Lab     Land of Nod      
1820/03/19  Barnett   Martha     James/Elizabeth     Lab     Land of Nod

Elizabeth Barnett, 43 years old of Headley Park, was buried 16 December 1822 in Headley.

Since censuses and burial registers for Hampshire have become more easy to search it has been possible to test this theory's likelihood, and it seems possible. It should be kept in mind that a labourer who did not own his own land would need to be able to move between neighbouring parishes over the years. The number of children James had is rather impressive though!

One gap in the account above is that I am not aware of anyone having found a burial or death record for James himself. Such a record might give an age at death which might help us confirm his origins.

Going back to James' own origin, still following the most widely accepted theory, here are the baptisms of this supposed Barnett/Barnard family with parents John and Jane Barnett/Barnard (in most cases, both parents are named):

30 October 1755 Betty Barnett in Binstead
31 December 1756 John Barnett in Binstead (mother's name not mentioned)
27 September 1758 Sarah Barnett in Binstead. There is also 17 January 1758 Sarah Barnet in Kingsley (in this case, mother's name Jone according to the LDS Vital Records Index)
14 March 1760, James Barnett in Kingsley
21 September 1761, Ann  Barnett - apparently appearing both the Kingsley and Binstead registers with the same date and parents names.
22 April 1763, Jenny Barnett in Kingsley
31 August 1764, Richard Barnard in Kingsley
5 August 1766, Hannah Barnard in Kingsley (there is a burial 4 June 1767 in Kingsley, for Hannah Barnard, infant)
11 October 1769, Hannah Barnard in Kingsley
1 January 1772, Martha Barnard in Kingsley
6 June 1777, Thomas Barnard in Kingsley
1 May 1778, Ezekiel Barnatt in Binstead (mother's name not mentioned)
17 January 1782, John Barnard in Kingsley

Here we see the variant spellings with Barnard instead of Barnett. Looking at various records from this area shows that this was really widely accepted, however it should be said that this family seems to have gravitated towards Barnett spellings from an early time (presumably due to pronunciation rather than their spelling ideas, as it is very unlikely that they could write). In Binstead in the 1730s and 1750s there was another family using the Barnard spelling (John and Olive, as they were named, seem to have moved from Ropley). Perhaps one clerk in Kingsley is responsible for the Barnard spellings.

Going back further Graham writes: "Pamela Tancred states that on her visit she found John's baptism in Kingsley son of John & Mary Jones, and this latter was son of John and Frances?" I wonder however if the John she found could just as easily be the John the husband of Olive, from Ropley. In Ropley there appears to have been a great concentration of Barnetts and Barnards. In any case it is interesting to note that there was a John Barnard who was having children with his wife Francis around 1700 in Kingsley.

At this point we are left waiting for leads or better data concerning the ancestry of John Barnett, his wife Jane, and his daughter-in-law Sarah Hockley.

3. Emma's mother's family, the Warrens.

Jane Warren came from a family of skilled professionals. In eras before our own this was often a massive headstart in life, despite the supposedly lower status which true aristocrats and large land owners may sometimes have given to those who worked for a living (an attitude which was in any case certainly "out-of-sync" with reality already in the time we are talking about, if not already for some centuries before).

Their particular skill was paper-making, and an undetermined amount of her ancestors appear to have come from Devon and Cornwall to Hampshire during the 18th and early 19th centuries bringing their skill to a neighbourhood with good water driven mills, and access to waterways so that they can transport raw materials in (rags etc). They were mobile families whose key men spent time in several counties during their professional careers. Perhaps we should call them a "south coast" family rather than a Hampshire one. This mobility of course gives its own problems to a genealogist!

The reason that paper makers settled in Headley is that it had several water mills. The Headley paper industry, and the familys who ran it, are discussed in detail in an article by Alan Crocker which is reproduced on the website of John Owen Smith: http://www.johnowensmith.co.uk/headley/crocker.htm. In this context it should also be mentioned that there is a good book-trade website by the Devon County Council, and a website by the British Association of Paper Historians. See also the blog website of Ian Maxsted. The information they are collecting is very of the type that can be useful for genealogists.

Jane was baptised in the parish of Bramshott, the parish lying along the south of Headley and sharing its main rivers, and therefore its paper industry. Her parents were John Warren and Anne Elstone, who were married by banns, 2 June 1827. Both signed in the presence of Mary Elstone & William Elstone. Concerning their children, my main source is information from censuses. (There is a great webpage of Bramshott transcriptions by Linda and Tony Knight, but not including this period.) However there are the following Bramshott baptisms showing in the Mormon's IGI:

Jane Warren, 4 October 1828, daughter of John and Anne.
John Warren, 19 February 1832, son of John and Anne.
Ann Mary Warren, 16 June 1833, daughter of John and Ann.

In the 1841 census, the family were living amongst a community of paper makers in Passfield, Bramshott and their address is given no special name...

Jno Warren, paper maker was 37 years old and not born in Hampshire
Ann Warren, paper sorter, also 37, was born in Hampshire
Jane Warren, paper maker, 12, born Hampshire
Jno Warren, paper maker, 9, born Hampshire
Elizth Warren, paper maker, 6, born Hampshire
Mary Warren, paper maker, 3, born Hampshire

In the 1851 census, they are living in "Barford House" in Headley, apparently next to Barford Mill

Jno Warren, journeyman paper maker was 47 years old and born in Topsham, Devon
Ann Warren, paper maker wife, also 47, was born in Headley, Hampshire
Jane Warren is no longer with the family
Jno Warren, journeyman mill wright, 19, born Bramshott Hampshire
Elizth Warren, 16, born Bramshott Hampshire
Mary Warren, 13, born Bramshott Hampshire

In 1861, Jane's parents' family is no longer to be seen. Perhaps John is the 52 year old widower living in Topsham, his birth place. However this man, though living near papermakers, is a "lighterman" - someone responsible for boat transport in the waterways - and not a papermaker. His birth place is also given as Exminster, not Topsham. Exminster was just across the water of the Exe. It is also surprising that no sign can be found of John Warren junior, the mill wright. Perhaps they all emmigrated like Jane?

It is interesting that in document bundle 2A05/12 concerning Bramshott, Hampshire record office report finding reference to a will for a John Warren of Arford House, dated 1864, which does not appear to be held in the Record Office.

4. The Warren Family, from Devon.

As will be seen in the above-mentioned artcile, there is a very important Warren family, stemming from paper makers who originally came from Devon. They are well known in Headley local history. Not only were they part of what became an increasingly important business enterprise, but they helped bring Methodism into the area. This family was founded by William Warren. His 20th century descendant, John Warren, Marion Warren's late husband, wrote a small book which can easily be ordered through John Owen Smith's website, called "A River Runs By". In it he mentions...

"In 1815, William Warren who had served his apprenticeship as a papermaker in Plymouth and Bath came from the west country.  After working at the Papermill in Stedham, on the Rother
near Midhurst he took over the mills in Standford.  He prospered and was soon making many different kinds of paper as well as doing his own printing.  Eventually the mills employed more
than 100 workers."

Marion Warren was able to give me more helpful information in the form of an excerpt from a book which is apparently called "The Warren Family" (I know no other details; perhaps it is "A History of the Warren Family" by Rev. Thomas Warren 1902). This author of this book seems to have had very clear information which stated that William Warren was a grandson or greatgrandson of one Peter Warren, mayor of Brandninch in Devon for 1723, and also owner of several papermills including the important one in Topsham, a seaside village downstream from Bradninch and Exeter, called Countess Weir. As mentioned above, paper makers looked for moving water, and Countess Weir was a damming of the whole River Exe.

The Bradninch Warren family was prosperous in all senses of the words, and appears in the parish registers as far back as they go, starting with Christian Warren, buried 1567. The family had quite a few mayors, and several men who were referred to as "Mr" in the 1600s when it still meant something. As with any such family in those times the number of personal names was limited, and making a family tree just based upon registers is a guessing game.

These records are very important, because the only document I can find to give us his place of origin is the 1851 census, which says he was born in Topsham, Devon about 64 years before, or approximately 1787. It should be kept in mind that most Devon probate records, a normal resource for all genealogical study, were destroyed after Rev. Warren wrote his history, during the second World War. And indeed when we search for baptisms we find one in 28 May 1787 in Topsham, William Warren, son of Peter and Jenny. Peter and Jenny, or Jane, seem to be a couple who moved downstream from Rewe, leaving the following trail of baptisms...

ANDREW WARREN 22 OCT 1775 Rewe By Exeter, Devon, England
MARY WARREN 03 AUG 1777 Rewe By Exeter, Devon, England
JOHN WARREN 22 AUG 1779 Rewe By Exeter, Devon, England
WILLIAM WARREN 28 MAY 1787 Topsham, Devon, England
THOMAS WARREN 01 MAR 1789 Topsham, Devon, England
PETER WARRON 06 JUN 1784 Topsham, Devon, England
SARAH WARREN 24 JUL 1791 Topsham, Devon, England

Coming back to my family, Jane Warren's father, John Warren, was also a paper maker and was also from Devon. On the 1851 census he is also stated to come from Topsham, being born about 47 years before (approximately 1804).

Marion's late husband, John, believed that our John Warren was a son of William Warren. This presents problems. Graham Barnett quotes a prior researcher, Roma Draper, who said that "William Warren papermaker was born 1786-87 at Topsham, Devon, whilst the John Warren, father of Jane was born about 1806 so can't possibly be son of William". This is not entirely convincing, although it must be said that William Warren's family and heirs were the children of his wife Elizabeth Roe who he married 3 June 1811 Midhurst, Sussex. Could William have had a child before this marriage? If so, he was probably illegimate as he was not treated as an heir. Illegitimacy might also explain why our John does not seem to appear in the Topsham parish register.

While it seems obvious that we are somehow related to the other Warrens of Topsham and Headley, the manner of this relationship remains unknown. It could be that John Warren was an early son of William Warren. On the other hand there is an intriguing baptism from a similar time to his birth: Mary ELSTON Warren was baptised 22 December 1805, a daughter to a single mother named Jane. John would go on to marry an Elstone in Headley, and the surname is not common. Overall it should be kept in mind that the Warren family of Bradninch was prodigous, and also successful in business. Who knows how many cousins and second cousins were called into action in these ventures? It is for sure that there were more than a few Warren paper makers moving around the country.

Another coincidence of surnames involves the famous surname Pim (or Pimm, or Pym etc) which is a Cornish surname. (Long before, John Pim the parliamentarian was of Cornish stock, but to mention another coincidence, he married in Bramshott in the 1600s.) And so let us discuss the Elstones and Pims...

5. The Elstone Family of Bramshott.

From John Owen Smith's Headley transcriptions it is easy to find the baptisms of Anne Elstone and her siblings:

1786/07/18     Elstone     Anne      John/Ann                     (apparently buried 12 May 1787 in Headley)
1788/07/24     Elstone     Elizabeth     John/Anne              (apparently buried  8 Mar 1810 in Headley, aged 82)
1790/02/22     Elstone     Frances     John/Ann                  
1792/03/26     Elstone     John         John/Ann                  
1794/02/19     Elstone     Mary         John/Anne                  
1795/11/23     Elstone     Henry     John/Ann                 Journeyman papermaker in Bramshott in 1851, papermaker in 1841                  
1798/05/18     Elstone     Richard     John/Ann              Paper maker in Bramshott in 1841    
1800/04/04     Elstone     William     John/Ann              Journeyman papermaker in Bramshott in 1851, papermaker in 1841. His son George, paper maker, married Mary Barnett 9 Sep 1849
1802/03/09     Elstone     Edward     John/Anne            Appears to be the draper and congrationalist whose house was a certified non-conformist meeting house in the 1820s in Alton and Alresford.. He instructed poor children in Alresford. In 1851 he was back in Headley.

1804/04/11     Elstone     Anne         John/Ann                  
1806/06/13     Elstone     Susanna     John/Anne    

And the marriage of the parents, John and Anne, are to be found in the IGI for Bramshott: John Elstone and Anne Pim, 27 February 1786. Yet another great website of transcriptions, this time by Lesley Potter, gives us more details, from the marriage licence:, dated 24 February 1786. John was a 24 year old bachelor of Bramshott, and a tailor by profession. (Later he took up running Bramshott paper mill, which will be discussed below, and at his death, 2 October 1846 he was a Linen Draper of Headley.) Anne was a 23 year old spinster of Bramshott. It is perhaps worth noting that their first child was born less than 9 months later. We expect to find was born about 24 years before 1786, (about 1762), and so indeed we do if we turn once again to the IGI for Bramshott. The following were baptisms of the children of another John Elstone, and his wife Elizabeth...

JOHN ELSTONE 19 OCT 1761 Bramshot, Hampshire, England       
ELIZABETH ELSTONE 21 JUL 1763 Bramshot, Hampshire, England       
THOMAS ELSTONE 22 JAN 1766 Bramshot, Hampshire, England       (perhaps buried  8 Feb 1834 age 68 Parish Gosport?)
JAMES ELSTONE 19 OCT 1767 Bramshot, Hampshire, England       
WILLIAM ELSTONE 15 MAR 1770 Bramshot, Hampshire, England      (buried 14 Sep 1790 age 20 Parish Bramshott)
FRANCES ELSTONE 10 APR 1772 Bramshot, Hampshire, England        (buried March 29 1774, aged 2, in Bramshott)
GEORGE ELSTONE 16 JAN 1775 Bramshot, Hampshire, England       
EDWARD ELSTONE 31 JUL 1777 Bramshot, Hampshire, England       
CHARLES ELSTONE 29 SEP 1780 Bramshot, Hampshire, England         (Grocer and Draper in Bramshott in 1841, 1851, 1861)
GILBERT ELSTONE 26 AUG 1785 Bramshot, Hampshire, England   

John Elstone senior, the father of this group, was buried 8 May 1799 in Bramshott, and left a PCC will made only 7 days earlier, which mentions his wife Elizabeth and his children John, Thomas, James, George, Edward, Charles and Gilbert.

He had married Elizabeth Gilbert in Farnham, Surrey, just over the county border on 6 Octobert 1760. After a long while of having this only pencilled in, it was finally confirmed when I found the PCC will of her father, John Gilbert of Farnham, Gentleman, dated 31 Oct 1781. It mentions his "ffive children John Gilbert Thomas Gilbert William Gilbert Elizabeth the wife of John Elston and Mary Gilbert". John Elston was to be one of the executors. John Gilbert junior was, by the way, "in America or in some other place beyond the seas" and provision was made for the fact that he might never return. Unfortunately, I have no conclusive leads beyond this will for the Gilberts. What we do know about Elizabeth is that she was probably born about 1739, because she was buried 1 Jan 1821 age 82 in the parish of Bramshott. There was a couple named John and Elizabeth who appear in the Haslemere parish registers. They had sons baptised in 1744 and 1746, and this may be our family.

There is also a gentleman named John Gilbert in the area who can be found mentioned in several Surrey Wills (which have been indexed), for example Thomas Collins of Frensham, husbandman 27 Apr 1757 (where John is a witness); Thomas Overington of Haslemere, 26 Apr 1716 (where this John, perhaps an older relative, is said to be a gentleman of Haslemere). There is an Anglican burial record in Farnham for a John dated 11 Nov 1781.

In earlier Bramshott register there is really only one set of baptisms, all children of yet an earlier John Elston, and his wife (or wives as we shall see) named Mary...

MARY ELSTONE 26 JAN 1730 Bramshot, Hampshire, England        (Appears to have married John Levett, with an allegation made 18 Feb 1757. John, her brother the tailor, was witness.)
ANNE ELSTON 24 JAN 1732 Bramshot, Hampshire, England       
JOHN ELSTONE 21 FEB 1737 Bramshot, Hampshire, England       
MARGARET ELSTONE 11 JUL 1740 Bramshot, Hampshire, England

The reason I say "wives" is that according to the IGI at least, John married Mary Stenning, 9 Jul 1737, in Bramshott, which means there were baptisms before this marriage, also with parents named John and Mary. The most obvious explanation, given that this is a small village, and that Elstone is an unusual surname, and that John and Mary are the most common possible personal names, is that one John married two Marys in his life and had children with both. The second Mary seems to be the one who was buried in Bramshott 25 Jul 1749. Concerning the seeming first wife, I wonder if she is the one who appears in the NBI as Mercy Elstone buried 15 Aug 1733, Parish Bramshott.

This John, the first of three in our tree, is the furthest anyone has gone so far. He is however reasonably easy to identify in church records of the time as he was apparently the parish clerk. Linda and Tony Knight's webpage shows the following very helpful entry: "I John ELSTONE who have been three and thirty years Clerk of Bramshot do certify that these are the usual customary fees due to the Minister and Clerk of This Parish as witness my hand This 26 May 1763 John ELSTONE". See more church history here: http://www.southernlife.org.uk/bramshot.htm.

The burial register also seems to show a contemporary of the first known John Elstone had also lived his life there: William ELSTONE aged 80years September 14 1790.

6. The Pim, Pym or Pymm family.

Anne Elstone, nee Pim, was buried 7 Oct 1831, age 69 in the parish of Headley. This means she was born about 1762. In fact, at this point it is convenient to refer to the family tree which can be found amongst the "Ancestral Files" on the LDS www.familysearch.org website, using their AFN references and adding what information we have:

1. Richard PIMM (AFN: 1SFT-JFW); Paper mill owner and operator. According to the LDS he was born in East Stratton, Hampshire, but they give no exact date and so this seems to be a guess based upon his wife's apparent origins. Details of Headley records concerning him are widely available on the internet, especially Alan Crocker's article, because he was one of the first paper miller owners there of whom we can say very much. He first appear in the parish records in 1729 when being married. He took over a property previously owned by Roger Barden. I have discovered one record not mentioned on John Owen Smith's site and that is 21M65/C9/120 concerning a complaint against Richard Pim for not paying tithes in Bramshott, for use of the land in the years 1747-1751. The accusations are awfully vague but imply impressive wealth, though one gets the impression that, like any aggresive tax inspector, the writer was trying to make Pim prove that he was not extremely wealthy! The memorial inscription, transcribed on John Owen Smith's site, reads: "In memory of / Richard PIM / who died / March 4, 1785 / aged 81 years / In memory of / Anne / the wife of Richard PIM / who died / November 27, 1780 / aged 79 years / From care removed sleeps peaceful here / a loving wife, a mother dear / though parting wraps my soul in grief / from Heaven flows this kind relief / that we may meet on that blessed shore / where tears and sighing are no more" The burial register confirms the same age at death and says he was buried a few days after death on 7 March.

Married Anne EWEN OR EWENCE (1713-1780) (AFN: 1SFT-JG4), bap. East Stratton, Hampshire, 27 Sep 1713, dau. of Thomas EWENCE (1685- ) (AFN: 1SFT-KCN); m. 28 Dec 1729, Headley, Hampshire, England. See the MI of her husband above which implies that she was born about 1701. The burial register says she was buried 1 December 1780 and aged 79.

1.1 Henry PYM (1730-1805) (AFN:1SFT-J42); b. 1730; chr. 17 Oct 1730, Bramshott, Hampshire, England; Paper Maker; d. 18 Nov 1805, Headley. Alan Crocker writes that the "first reference to Henry Pim is in 1756 when Hannah Russell of Binsted, a single woman, declared that she was with child and charged Henry Pim papermaker of Bramshott with having gotten the said child on her body. The constables and tithing men of Hampshire were instructed to apprehend Pim and bring him before one of his Majesty's Justices of the Peace". Headley memorial inscription: "In memory of / Henry PIM / who died / November 18, 1805 / aged lxxv years / In memory of / Susannah / wife of Henry PIM / who died / May 26, 1811 / aged lxxvii years". The burial register gives the date for burial as 24 November 1805 and confirms his age as 75.

Married Susanna KING (1733-1811) (AFN: 1SFT-J58), dau. of Roger KING (b.1701, bur.1735) (AFN: 1SFT-JM5) and Rose HARTLY (b.1694?, bur.1739) (AFN: 1SFT-JNC); m. 21 Apr 1759, Headley, Hampshire, England. See her husbands MI above. The burial register adds that she was buried 31 May 1811, and confirms that she was 77.

1.1.1 Anne PIM (1762-1831) (AFN:1SFT-8BW); b. 1762; chr. 29 Jan 1762, Bramshott, Hampshire, England; bur. 7 Oct 1831, Headley, Hampshire (69 years, of Arford)

Married John ELSTONE (1761-1846) (AFN:1SFT-89P), son of John ELSTONE (1737-1799) (AFN: 1SFT-HPD) and Elizabeth GILBERT (1739?-1820) (AFN: 1SFT-HQL); m. 27 Feb 1786, Bramshot, Hampshire, England. Alan Crocker writes that "Anne's husband John Elstone became the papermaker at Bramshott and remained there until 1822 but the landowners between 1800 and 1823 were Gill, Ellis and Leach. The mill was allocated excise number 119 in 1816". In Henry Pim's 1809 will John is still a Linen Draper.

1.1.2 Richard PYM(1760- ) (AFN:1SFT-J6G); b. 1760; chr. 16 Jul 1760, Bramshott, Hampshire, England.  

He died relatively young it seems according to this MI in Headley: In memory of / Richard PIM / who died / July 25, 1805 / Aged 45 years. The burial register confirms his age at death and says he was buried a few days after death on 29 July. It also mentions that he was a Miller of Bramshott parish. His will mentioned his sisters and their husbands, Henry his brother, and John Elstone his brother in law. His father's will specifies that his son Richard had lately died without issue. Both will wills mention his wife Elizabeth, but only his father's mentions her maiden name. It also mentions that father and son were in joint possession of Bramshott Mill for 25 years starting Michaelmas 1799.

m. Elizabeth Newland 

1.1.3 Susannah PYM (1764- ) (AFN:1SFT-J7N); b. 1764; chr. 3 May 1764, Bramshott, Hampshire, England

Married Richard Trimmer, apparently of Alton (signed father-in-law's will).

1.1.4 Elizabeth PIM (1766- ) (AFN:1SFT-J8V); b. 1766; chr. 21 Mar 1766, Bramshott, Hampshire, England

Married John WILMOT; m. 16 Feb 1790, Bramshott, Hampshire

1.1.5 Henry PIM (1768-1809) (AFN:1SFT-J93); b. 1768; chr. 22 Jul 1768, Headley, Hampshire, England; d. 5 Feb 1809, Bramshott, Hampshire.

Alan Crocker writes "Both Richard and Henry Pim senior died in 1805 and the mill was taken over by Henry junior. He died in 1809 and left £200 to his illegitimate son Henry and the rest of his property to his five sisters Anne Elstone, Susannah Trimmer, Elizabeth Wilmot, Mary Curtis and Sarah Knight." Memorial Inscription is transcribed: "In memory of / Henry PIM / who died / January 31, 1809 / aged 41 years".  Signed with an "X" despite his wealth and involvement in the paper business. The burial register gives a burial date of 5 February 1805, confirms his age and mentions that he was of Bramshott Paper Mill.

Married Elizabeth LEE (1776-1808); m. 16 Nov 1797, Headley, Hampshire. Memorial separate from her husband: "In memory of / Elizabeth / wife of Henry PIM / who died / July 25, 1808 / aged 32 years". The burial register says she was buried in Headley 29 July 1808, and confirms her age as 32.

Relationship with Hannah Smith, later to be the wife of Thomas Fulleck?, mentioned in Henry's will as the mother of his son...

1.1.5.1. Henry Smith

1.1.6 Mary PIM (1770- ) (AFN:1SFT-JB9); b. 1770; chr. 7 Jun 1770, Headley, Hampshire, England. There must have been an earlier Mary who died as an infant in 1768.

Married Richard Curtis. Crocker: "Richard Curtis and Richard Knight, the husbands of Mary and Sarah, became the papermakers at Standford and Barford."

1.1.7 Joseph PIM (1774-1775) (AFN:1SFT-JCH); b. 1774; chr. 6 Apr 1774, Headley, Hampshire, England; d. 1775, Headley, Hampshire. Burial register gives 24 January 1775, infant, of Bramshott.
1.1.8 Sarah PIM (1776- ) (AFN:1SFT-JDP); b. 1776; chr. 27 Dec 1776, Headley, Hampshire, England

Married Richard Knight. Crocker: "Richard Curtis and Richard Knight, the husbands of Mary and Sarah, became the papermakers at Standford and Barford."

1.2 Richard PIMM (1732- ) (AFN:1SFT-JHB); b. 1732; chr. 22 Oct 1732, Bramshott, Hampshire, England. Perhaps later a papermaker in Lindfield Sussex, and also established paper making in Russia? See http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/paper-mills-makers/2000-03/0952128396.

A Richard Pim married Sarah Harding in Headley 6 August 1758. Sarah was possibly buried 7 July 1770 in Headley.  I add the children who do not appear in the LDS ancestral file...

1.2.1. Richard Pim. Baptised 15 January 1760. Buried 6 February 1760 "infant". Richard's brother Henry baptised his next son as Richard a few months later. (See above.)
1.2.2. Sarah Pim. Baptised 10 April 1761.
1.2.3. John Pim. Baptised 29 June 1764.

Second marriage? Frances Smith, Feb. 16 1773 in Balcombe Sussex. From their descendant Terry Edwards I know the children are:

1.2.4. Frances Pim
1.2.5. Elizabeth Pim
1.2.6. James Pim
1.2.7. Anne Pim

However there seems to have been a surviving son Richard, who married Mary Burgess in Lindfield, October 24, 1786, "with the consent of FRANCES PIM, his mother" (again at the advice of Terry Edwards).

1.3 Ann PYM (1735- ) (AFN:1SFT-JJJ); b. 1735; chr. 26 Feb 1735, Bramshott, Hampshire, England
1.4 John PYM (1738- ) (AFN:1SFT-JKQ); b. 1738; chr. 20 Jun 1738, Bramshott, Hampshire, England
1.5 Mary PYM (1742- ) (AFN:1SFT-JLX); b. 1742; chr. 12 Dec 1742, Bramshott, Hampshire, England

John Pim, the famous parliamentarian who played a role in the Civil War of the 17th century, though certainly not from the Headley area, was married in Bramshott to the daughter of the local Lord John Hooke, who was a member of his "circle" of Puritans and a brother-in-law of his step father. It has been suggested here and there that Richard Pimm must be a relative. I can find no evidence of that, and it seems impossible that our Pims could be direct descendants in any case. (It is however interesting that John Pim had some sort of contact with the Jervoise family of Hampshire, whose manor records also mention the Kings of Alton who we mention below. Our Pim family married into the King family once both were established in Headley and Bramshott.)

What I can find, however, is that a Pim/Pym family was active in Countess Wear in Topsham (which had belonged to the Warrens) paper milling in Devon, as well as Lindfield Sussex. See for example http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/y/m/Jonathan-M-Pym/index.html and http://www.campwinnecook.com/getperson.php?personID=I1526&tree=557. It appears probable that the Headley Pyms descend from the Topsham ones, and the Lindfield Pyms are a branch of those of Headley. (It could be that the Pims however only got into paper milling in Headley, and took it back towards their probable homeland later.) We can even say that in the late 18th century, one Thomas Chorlock was partner to both Pims and Warrens when he ran Countess Wear in Topsham. See http://www.devon.gov.uk/etched?_IXP_=1&_IXR=121947. Alan Crocker adds that the family was also present in "Sharps or Newick Mill in Sussex" concerning which I have no confirming information, even concerning the mills involved.

While it is possible that the Topsham Pyms stem from the Headley Pyms, and not the other way around, it is in any case pretty clear that the surname comes from Devon or nearby, rather than being local to Hampshire. The surname seems to mainly or only to be used by one family who were found in Devon and Somerset originally. John Pim the parliamentarian was a member of the main line, who were minor aristocrats. They were based in Brymore in Cannington, which is in Somerset. It is however interesting that there is evidence there were Pims spread around southern England before the time we are concerned with, and in particular the NBI shows that there had been at least one family in Northington, in Hampshire, which is between East Stratton and Bighton, the possible home of the Ewen family to be discussed below. The earliest record of Richard Pimm in Headley is his marriage to Ann Ewen. Might they both have arrived from the same area? If so why would they marry in the new parish?

It is interesting that a little before the arrival of this surname in Headley and Bramshott, another famous Devon surname is seen there: Drake. Drake and Pym/Pim appear together in many old records, for example the Brymore Pims were in close contact with the family of Sir Francis Drake, involving at least one marriage (see DD\BR\ely/1/3 and 346M/F692-693 and WW/642) and there may have been a connection between the two families in Headley. There were Drakes in Hampshire who were millers, including one named Francis. See http://www.hampshiremills.org/History%20-%20%20Millers%20of%20Hampshire%20name%20sorted.htm. Headley records show that the Drakes there were also involved in building the mills. However it should be mentioned that the Drake surname was present in Headley from a very early time. See http://www.johnowensmith.co.uk/headley/calendar.htm.

While for the Pimm family it was merely convenient to refer to the familysearch ancestral file, for the two groups of families below (Ewence of Stratton and King of Broughton), who married into the Pim family tree, most of my information originally from the tantalizing familytree on familysearch.org. The original researcher who submitted the whole file (AF97-103068) was...

JUDY M. MORGAN     
117 VERNA LANE
GRANTS PASS OR    
USA 97527-9040

I have not yet made contact with her, but would be very interested to. I will move discussion of the Broughton families which she linked to the Headley Kings to the end of this page, because I have come to believe they are not linked, although I have also pursued some research into them.

7. The Ewen or Ewence family?

Ann Ewen married Richard Pimm or Pym in Headley in 1729. The Ancestral File mentioned above gives a family tree as follows, which asserts that she was from the area of East Stratton, which reasonably far to the West of Headley, beyond Alton. Nevertheless it is not unbelievably far, and this does seem the closest Ewen family in the area. So this seems a plausible connection.

I have reproduced the family tree suggested from the Ancestral file below [with my comments in square brackets]....

1.  William EWEN (AFN: 1SFT-L71). 

1.1. William EWENS (AFN:1SFT-L1R). Baptised 5 May 1616 in Bighton, Hampshire.  [The National Burial Index (NBI) shows a burial for a man of this name 12 Apr 1697 in Bighton. There seems to be a will - 1697A/046     Will of William Ewen of Bighton, Hampshire, yeoman     1697.]

Married Joane SPURLING (AFN: 1SFT-L20), 11 May 1647, in Bighton. She was baptised 19 Jul 1627 in Fareham, daughter of Gulielmi (William) SPURLING (AFN:1SFT-MFF). [The National Burial Index (NBI) shows a burial for a woman of the right name 18 Nov 1660 in Bighton. In Fareham there is and was a farm known as Spurlings.]

Children, baptismed in Bighton...

1.1.1. Joane EWENS (AFN:1SFT-L36). Baptised 12 Mar 1647.
1.1.2. Mary EWENS (AFN:1SFT-L4D).  Baptised 6 Jan 1649.
1.1.3. William EWENS (AFN:1SFT-L5L). Baptised 10 Aug 1651.
1.1.4. John EWENCE (AFN:1SFT-KHH). Baptised 4 Jul 1653.

Married Joan (AFN: 1SFT-KJP). Said to be fron Prior's Dean, Hampshire.
Children's baptised in East Stratton, Hampshire...

1.1.4.1. Mary EWENCE (AFN:1SFT-KKW). Baptised 18 Mar 1679.
1.1.4.2. Ame EWENCE (AFN:1SFT-KL4). Baptised 19 Jun 1681.
1.1.4.3. John EWENCE (AFN:1SFT-KMB). Baptised 4 Nov 1683.
1.1.4.4. Thomas EWENCE (AFN:1SFT-KCN). Baptised 21 Dec 1685.

Children's baptisms in East Stratton...

1.1.4.4.1. Thomas EWENCE (AFN:1SFT-KF3). Baptised 12 Aug 1711.

1.1.4.4.2. Anne EWEN (AFN:1SFT-JG4). Baptised 27 Sep 1713. 

Married Richard PIMM (AFN: 1SFT-JFW) 28 Dec 1729, Headley. (According to John Owen Smith's transcription, Anne's home parish is not mentioned in the marriage register.)

1.1.4.4.3. Wallam EWENCE (AFN:1SFT-KG9). Baptised 17 Sep 1717.

1.1.5. Daniel EWENS (AFN:1SFT-L6S). Baptised 19 Oct 1658.

It is hard to imagine how Judy Morgan could link this family to Headley, but I am encouraged to see many wills remain unchecked by me or anyone I know so far. I have put those which occur after the marriage, which might therefore mention a married Anne, in bold. However they include none of the East Stratton Ewens...

1596A/040 - Will and inventory of John Ewen (Eewin) of East Stratton, Hampshire.    The National Burial Index (NBI) shows a burial for a man named John Ewen 24 Nov 1596 in East Stratton. 
1606AD/21     Inventory of Thomas Ewens of East Stratton, Hampshire     1606
1688AD/033     Inventory of Stephen Ewens (Ewenes) of East Stratton, Hampshire, Husbandman     1688
1630A/034     Will and inventory of John Ewens of Bighton, Hampshire     1630
1640A/049     Will and inventory of Elizabeth Ewens of Bighton, Hampshire, widow     1640
1669A/035     Will of Peter Ewen of Bighton, Hampshire     1669
1674A/036     Will and inventory of John Ewens of Bighton, Hampshire, yeoman     1674
1674AD/046     Inventory of Thomas Ewen of Bighton, Hampshire     1674
21M65/D8/306     Accounts, and further probate document relating to Thomas Ewens of Bighton, Hampshire     1679
1679A/037     Will and inventory of Edward Ewen of Bighton, Hampshire, yeoman     1679
1696AD/030     Inventory of John Ewen of Bighton, Hampshire, yeoman     1696
1701A/028     Will of Robert Ewen of Bighton, Hampshire 1701
1725A/035     Will and inventory of Elizabeth Ewens of Breach Farm, Bighton, Hampshire, widow     1725
1728B/042     Will of William Ewen of Drayton, Bighton, Hampshire, husbandman     1728
1729A/055     Will of Robert Ewen of Drayton, Barton Stacey, Hampshire, yeoman     1729
1731A/045     Will of William Ewen of Bighton, Hampshire, yeoman     1731
1733AD/042     Probate administration of William Ewen of Bighton, Hampshire, yeoman     1733
1741B/047     Will of Elizabeth Ewen of Bighton, Hampshire, widow     1741
1741B/048     Probate administration of William Ewen of Drayton, Bighton, Hampshire, husbandman     1741

On the other hand, Ann Ewen's burial records seems to indicate that she was born about 1701, which would also be a bit more normal than 1713 for a person who married in 1729. She may of course have been baptised some years after birth.

8. The King family.

Susanna King married Henry Pym or Pimm in Headley in 1759. When she died in 1811 she was 77, so she was born about 1734. Susan was from a Headley family, the daughter of Roger King (buried 1 Apr 1735 in Headley) and his wife Rose (buried in Headley, a widow, 31 August 1739). And this is the common ground which we can confirm about Judy Morgan's pedigree along with the list of Susanna King's siblings...

1. Roger KING (AFN:1SFT-JPK). 27 Dec 1718
2. Sarah KING (AFN:1SFT-JR0). 17 Sep 1722
3. Christopher KING (AFN:1SFT-JS6). 18 Apr 1724 
4. William KING (AFN:1SFT-JQR). 24 Oct 1724. [Possibly a paper maker in Alton in 1784?]
5. Elizabeth KING (AFN:1SFT-JTD). 12 Apr 1726
6. Mary KING (AFN:1SFT-JVL). 5 May 1728
7. Jane KING (AFN:1SFT-JWS). 27 Oct 1730     
8. Susanna KING (AFN:1SFT-J58). 21 Oct 1733.

Married Henry PYM (AFN: 1SFT-J42), 21 Apr 1759 in Headley

While the marriage in Terwick might well be the marriage of our Roger, there had clearly been Kings living in Headley and Bramshott (and possibly neighbouring Liss?) before Roger King and his wife Rose started having children there, and records concerning these Kings seem to be inconsistent with the proposed link to the King family of Broughton..

The Headley registers, as transcribed by John Owen Smith, show a series of children with the father being Christopher King, right where our Kings came to live...

1644/01/31 King,  Roger            Christopher/Elizabeth
1646/11/13 King, Christopher    Christopher/Elizabeth           
1649/04/08 King, Betteris (f)      Christopher/Elizabeth   

burial: Elizabeth, 3 October 1662  
burial: Christopher,  5 February 1681

1673/05/14 King, Susanna        Christopher/Susanna  (buried in Headley, though of Bramshott, 20 July 1697)                
1676/03/04 King, Christopher   Christopher/Susann  (buried in Headley,10 March 1694, affirmed by Joan Succath)  
1678/06/09 King, William         Christopher/Susanna                  
1680/03/16 King, Roger           Christopher/Susanna                  
1682/05/16 King, Elisabeth       Christopher/Susanna                  
1684/07/27 King, Roger          Christopher/Susanna                  

burial: Susanna, wife of Christopher, 21 August 1684 (not long after the birth of Roger)          

1693/01/20 King, Ann             Christopher/Elizabeth

In 1665, Christopher King was exempted from paying tax on his two hearths, as was Roger Barden on his one hearth.The Pipe Roll of 1670 seems to show that an Elizabeth King was, along with Roger Bardin, an inhabitant of the Barford Mill area which the Pimm family would take over later. (The Bardens were ironworkers it seems, in the area from at least 1631. They seem to have also lived in neighbouring Selborne parish.) The marriage register of Headley shows a marriage 3 March 1690 between Christopher King and Elizabeth Phillips, plus an earlier wedding 18 May 1672 with Suzanne Hunt. What we appear to be seeing here are two generations of Christopher King, where the second Christopher married twice. 

We gain deeper insight into this family with 1681A/089, will and inventory of Christopher King the Elder of Headley, yeoman, corresponding with a burial 5 February 1681. It mentions an eldest son Roger King, a daughter Elizabeth Barden (there was a marriage in the register 10 June 1668 between Elizabeth King and Roger Barden), and a younger son Christopher. This therefore appears to be the first Christopher. It is very interesting that this man left land to both sons in the parish of Alton. The inheritances in detail:

• Roger, eldest son and heir,  inherited freehold land in Alton occupied by Jonathan Christmas (about 7 acres). This must be the same man with a 1715 will, 1715A/19, " Jonathan Christmas of Alton Eastbrook, Alton, Hampshire, Pointmaker". This seems to correspond to an Alton burial 9 Mar 1713. 19M50/11 of 5-6 Jun 1710 contains deeds which include mention of a common field in Nether Street, held by Jonathan Christmas.

• Roger also to have freehold land in Headley "adjoyninge to a lane called Hoppery lane, Now in the use & tenure of Edmund Shrube his assignee or assignes". There is a property called Hoppery Hill which is on Frensham Lane, and John Owen Smith suggests that Hoppery Lane is a "Short section of road at the north end of Saunders Green? – or possibly an old name for Frensham Lane between Lindford and Saunders Green". It does not appear to be in Barford, though it is not far. This land was also about 7 acres.

• Elizabeth to receive 5 pounds of English money to be paid within one month after her father's death.

• Christopher, apart from being full and sole executor, and receiver of rest, residues, debts, household goods etc, received "dwellinge house messuage or tenement Barne Outhouses Gateroome & Garden with all & every the appurtenances thereunto belonginge & apurteyninge (the said garden Conteyninge by Estimacon fforty Rode of ground more or less & adjoyninge unto the dwellinge house & premisses aforesaid) all situate in Alton Eastbrooke [Alton was divided into two main manors Eastbrook and Westbrook] ... now or late in the tenure use occupacon of Edward Heather".  The name Edward Heather appears in some records relating to Winchester, but nothing which can be tied to this at first sight.

• The inventory comes to a substantial 28 pounds. His lodgings had 3 beds, there was a kitchen including 6 pounds wirth of pewter, brass and iron, and there was a buttery which had "Barrells, Tubbs, Kivers & other Brewinge vessell" [sic]. A kiver is a tubb used in brewing. Was he a brewer? Brewing could be a profitable profession in those times.

The second Christopher seems to have died relatively young as there is a burial 14 July 1706.

1718A/47, the will of Roger King of Headley, mentions the daughter of a brother named Christopher. It corresponds to a burial in the register of 18 October 1718 for a Roger "senior" and it once again starts with land bounded by Hoppery Lane, this time (perhaps reduced) only on the east. On the south and west it was bounded by "Pinks land called boebarn" and on the north by Boxall's Land. This was passed down to his "cousin" Roger King, who is presumably the younger Roger who "senior" is being contrasted to. He mentioned many cousins, and it is worth pointing out here that the Oxford English Dictionary says that cousin was used as a word to mean any close relative who was not a sibling until at least 1748, so it could potentially mean nephew? In particular he mentioned...

Cousin Roger King (perhaps Roger "junior" as opposed to Roger senior?)
Cousin Ann Barden
Cousin Mary Barden
Cousin William King son of William King (not yet 21)
Cousin Thomas King son of William King (not yet 21)
Cousin Ann King daughter of William King (not yet 21)
Cousin Ann Martin wife of John Martin
Cousin Susan daughter of my brother Christopher King (this also shows how he uses the word cousin)
Elizabeth Green wife of John Green (note that a will of one of the Roger Bardens, in 1722, mentions that his daughter Elizabeth is married to John Greene. His other daughters were Anne and Mary as also mentioned in this present will. His heir was Roger Barden, and he also provides for a widow named Anne Slye. A will by an Elizabeth Barden, spinster, in 1685, mentions that her brother Roger has three daughters with these names., not yet 21. (That will also mentions her beloved friend John Christmas of Bentley, and it is signed by Will Christmas and Ann Christmas). 

The inventory filed with this will shows that was owed a massive 270 pounds in debts, while his materials goods, in a fire room, a lower chamber with a bed, a "Drinke House", and a chamber over the fire room and other chamber, were much smaller than those of his father. The Drinke House however seems to carry on a tradition. It included "Three Barrells three Kivers one tubb one stand & one little table".

There is a burial 17 April 1735 for Roger (perhaps the "cousin", son of William) in Headley. Note that this is after all the baptisms of Roger and Rose mentioned above, so this could be the father.

There is also 1739A/070, Will of Elizabeth King of Headley, widow, possibly the second wife of the second Christopher. This corresponds to a burial 20 April 1739, which mentions she is a widow but does not mention the husband either. It is a simple will which does not explain relationships but the benificiaries are, in reverse order...

Tomas King,

Willam King,

the children of Roger King (who are not yet married, those matching approximately the ages of Roger and Rose's children),

Thomas Lee and his wife "my deare child" Ann, (Notice how according to the above baptisms, Ann might be Elizabeth's only biological daughter.)

Thomas Chanell and his wife Ann the daughter of William Hunt,

William Woods and his wife Elizabeth the daughter of William Hunt.

(Notice how the King family had married the Hunt family in 1672, as mentioned above.)

Based upon all this, the family tree I think must be correct is as follows...

1. Christopher King. Buried 5 February 1680/81.

A witness to the will of perhaps the first in a line of Roger Barden's in 1641. Died and buried 1681 and left a will.

m. Elizabeth (maiden name unknown)

1.1. Roger King bap. 31 January 1644, who died apparently without children or wife in 1718. His will is 1718A/47 and his burial was 18 October 1718 (Roger "senior"). 
1.2. Christopher King. Baptised 13 November 1646.. Probably buried 14 July 1706.

m. Susanna Hunt 18 May 1672. Burial: Susanna, wife of Christopher, 21 August 1684 (not long after the birth of her last child, our ancestor, Roger).  

1.2.1. Susanna King. Baptised 14 May 1673. Buried in Headley, though "of Bramshott", 20 July 1697.
1.2.2. Christopher King. Baptised 4 March 1676. Buried in Headley, 10 March 1693/4, ("junior") the burial was affirmed by Joan Succath. (Quoting John Owen Smith: Between 1690-1796 a separate register (No.6) was kept for 'affirmations' that the deceased was buried 'in woollen only'.)
1.2.3. William King. Baptised 9 June 1678.
1.2.4. Roger King (died young). Baptised 16 March 1680.
1.2.5. Elizabeth King. Baptised 16 May 1682.
1.2.6. Roger King. Baptised 27 July 1684. Apparently buried 1 Apr 1735 in Headley. 

m. Rose, possibly Rose Hartly of Terwick, 8 Nov 1715, in which case Roger was resident in Liss at the time. Buried 31 Aug 1739 in Headley (widow).

1.2.6.1. Roger KING (AFN:1SFT-JPK). 27 Dec 1718
1.2.6.2. Sarah KING (AFN:1SFT-JR0). 17 Sep 1722
1.2.6.3. Christopher KING (AFN:1SFT-JS6). 18 Apr 1724
1.2.6.4. William KING (AFN:1SFT-JQR). 24 Oct 1724. [Possibly a paper maker in Alton in 1784?]
1.2.6.5. Elizabeth KING (AFN:1SFT-JTD). 12 Apr 1726
1.2.6.6. Mary KING (AFN:1SFT-JVL). 5 May 1728
1.2.6.7. Jane KING (AFN:1SFT-JWS). 27 Oct 1730    
1.2.6.8. Susanna KING (AFN:1SFT-J58). 21 Oct 1733.

m. Henry PYM (AFN: 1SFT-J42), 21 Apr 1759 in Headley

m. Elizabeth Phillips 3 March 1690. Possibly will 1739A, and buried 20 April 1739, Headley.

1.2.7. Ann King. Baptised 20 January 1693.

m. Thomas Lee

1.3. Elizabeth (Betteris) King. Baptised 8 April 1649. Perhaps buried 23 May 1683 (wife of Roger).

m. 10 June 1668 Roger Barden

1.3.1. Roger Barden

1.3.2. Elizabeth Barden

m. John Greene

1.3.3. Anne Barden
1.3.4. Mary Barden

If our Kings are not from Headley originally (for example a Joan King appears in land records for the 1380s in Headley) then perhaps they were from around Alton, where Christopher mentioned above had land. Alton is much closer to Headley and Bramshott than Broughton. It could of course be that the Alton King family is related to the Broughton King family further back.

Was there any connection to brewing? Well according to the Wikipedia article on Alton as it stands 19 August 2007:

Brewing used to be one of Alton's main industries. Hops and barley were grown in the surrounding area (indeed, Fanny Adams's butchered remains were found in a hop field) and the barley would have been malted in the town. The maltings still stand in Lower Turk Street, though it is no longer used for that purpose. They belonged to Halls Brewery from 1841 and were still producing malt in 1949.

Another webpage mentions that "Alton has a long and distinguished history. The town also retains the valley's last major brewery, an industry that was once virtually omnipresent throughout the Wey Valley." The Wey River starts around Alton and makes it's way to Headley, where its waters were also used by the paper-makers mentioned above. As a long shot it seems worth mentioning that the London Apprenticeship Abstracts (1442-1850) mention under 1541-2 one Kyng, Christopher, apprenticed to William Charde of the Brewers' Company.

Looking to Alton there is a PCC will PROB 11/194, Will of Roger King or Kinge, Yeoman of Alton, Hampshire, 1645. Most of the inheritances were sums of money. Roger seems to have had many parcels of land and though he does not give much detail about where they are, the descriptions including a gateroom and garden are at least a little reminiscient of those in the Headley will of Christopher Kinge who died in 1681. It also mentions:

Son Roger King, with children
Son William King, with children. 
Daughter Alice, wife of Richard Crosse, with children
Son Christopher King. Christopher was executor and was to get

1. The house, gardens, and appurtenances, now occupied by John Palmer, but this only after his siblings William and Alice die. Until then they were going to share this rent.
2. His father's house in Alton with the garden, now in occupation of Stephen James the Dyer (possibly buried 14 Dec 1687 in Alton).
3. The house in Alton in which his father Roger now dwells with his daughter Mary Wake, with gateroom and garden.
4. All the freehold land which his father Roger bought, which has a barne and is occupied by the Nicholsons of Alton.

Son Richard King, with children. 
Daughter Mary Wake and her child. The burial index shows two burials which might be relevant in Alton: 1 August 1714, and 26 September 1730. At least one of the Wakes in Alton was a maltster.
My friend Edmund King and his son George King, of Alton. (To be overseers.)
No living wife, but he allows for the possibility that he might marry before he dies.

This looks very much like it might be the father of Christopher King of Headley. Earlier, a Roger Kinge of Alton, yeoman, married a Jane Huett of the Soke Winton, 1 Jul 1629, in Hampshire.

Still earlier, in the administrative records of the Jervoise family of Herriard (just to the North of Alton), Sir Richard Paulet's records mention both a Roger King and his son Roger. Sir Richard died in 1614.

In several documents in a series of records (44M69/F2/14) concerning an on-going dispute between the Lee family and Sir Richard concerning his right to heriot, Roger King is mentioned - accused of trapassing on behalf of Sir Richard at Hurst and Southrop in Herriard manor.
(It is perhaps interesting that in a seemingly related but earlier case concerning dispute about heriots between the Lee family and Sir Richard, 44M69/F2/14/16, dated 1604-1605, Thomas King of very nearby Upton Grey, yeoman (46) gives a deposition.)

A series of documents also describe agreements between Roger and Sir Richard...

44M69/E2/30 is a "Lease of messuage and tenement, lately erected in Whitewood, containing 16a in Southrope, Herriard, for 80 years, to Roger Kinge ["the elder"] of Herriard, taylor, 10 Jan 1605". This one mentions "naturall sonnes" Richard and Roger, who seem to have been adults already.
44M69/E4/68 is a "Note of an agreement between Sir Richard and Roger King of Alton for husbandry work by King". This is undated but appears to apply to the first decade of the 1600s Mentions "the milk of xij kine" (see following).
44M69/E4/67 is an "Agreement for rent of 'kines milk' and husbandry work by Roger King of Alton". It concerns the period from Michaelmas to Michaelmas in 1612-1613. Note how Roger, apparently the same one, seems to be "of Alton" now, and is described as a yeoman. Or is this in fact the son of the earlier Roger?

Further back, there is a will and inventory 1578A/35 for a Roger Kinge of Alton. It is discussed on a webpage about the surname Brocket:

On 28 Jan 1575 Robert [Brocket of Alton] was one of 6 witnesses to a deed of release of property in Alton Eastbrook near Alton Church (HRO 61M96/1). He was one of the witnesses and overseers of the will of Roger King of Alton 22 Jan 1577 (HRO A35/1). Roger had property in Petworth, Sussex—c 15 m W of Cuckfield—so he or his wife may have come from there.

In the will, Roger's wife's name as Margaret. Petworth is close to Midhurst, and not terribly far from Terwick, Liss, Bramshott, and Headley! The will reveals that like the later Edmund, friend of the later Roger (who will be discussed more below), Roger was a resident at "Anstye". Today there is an Anstey road and an Anstey Lane, both on the Binsted or northeastern side of Alton town. However old records such as 10M51/9-10 and 10M51/14-15 make it clear that Ansty was a large manor which once included Golden Pott and Heydowne (at least part of which was apparently also considered part of Eastbrook, see 4M51/481-483). Golden Pott is almost in Herriard and Weston. It was however apparently distinguished from both Shalden and Holybourne. The arms which squeezed out to Golden Pott seems to have later become part of Shalden according to the Visions of Britain website. In 1901 registration sub-districts, Ansty is shown as having been divided between Alton and Binsted.

Roger had sons John and William and Roger (probably born in that order, judged by the way he provides for them). He also mentions Thomas King and Francis King. He had daughters "Alice Kinge the younger", and Jone Kinge, who was to get the rent from Petworth for vj years, and there is a relationship somehow it seems with the Harker family. It would appear to me that John or William are the likely inheritors of Ansty, and therefore the ancestors of the future Edmund. Roger possibly became a taylor and worked out his agreements with Sir Richard. The copy of the inventory I have just legible enough to see that he was wealthy and he had "kettles" of various kinds appearing amongst major assets.

The very speculative family tree we can reconstruct now for Christopher of Headley is:

1. Roger King of Ansty in Alton, yeoman. Will of 1578.

1.1. John King
1.1.2. William King
1.1.3. Roger King, taylor of Herriard, and later perhaps a yeoman of Alton. Lived in Southrope between Herriard and Alton.

1.1.3.1. Richard King
1.1.3.2. Roger King. Will of 1645. A yeoman of Alton.

1.1.3.2.1. Christopher King
1.1.3.2.2. Roger King
1.1.3.2.3. William King
1.1.3.2.4. Alice. Married Richard Crosse.
1.1.3.2.5. Richard King
1.1.3.2.6. Mary. Married a Wake?

1.1.4. Alice King the younger
1.1.5. Jone King

Concerning Roger King of Alton's friend named Edmund King, PROB 11/258 is the PCC will of Edmund King the elder, of Anstie in Alton, Hampshire, 1656. This corresponds to a burial 28 Jul 1656. It mentions

loving wife Agnes,
sons Thomas and William King,
daughter Jane Rout or Routt (with children Thomas, John, Dorothy),
daughter Elizabeth Vanner (with son John)
daughter Margery Nash (with children George, John and Rachell)
daughter Agnes Manning (with children John and Elizabeth)
son Edmund King (presumably the father of grandaughter Anne King; might he also have had a son George?)
widdow Alice Hale

A little later comes another Edmund, probably the one who was a friend of Roger with a son George, and the son mentioned in the earlier Edmund will: 1669AD/061, the inventory of Edmund King (Kinge) of Anstey, Alton, Hampshire, yeoman. Also possibly related is 1662AD/060 the probate inventory and renunciation of Rachel King of Alton, Hampshire, widow. 4M51/519 mentioned one of these Edmunds and describes a conveyance (bargain and sale) of 3 closes called Stoneland (30 acres), with 2 acres of additional land at Anstey, Alton, dated 18 Nov 1650. Also involved in the transaction were Nicholas Hoane of Tandridge, Surrey, yeoman and Mary Heighes of Stratton, spinster and Ann Heighes of East Worldham, spinster.

The two Edmunds can easily be seen in the IGI transcriptions of the Alton registers, unlike Roger. A first Edmund was having children in the 1630s, along with Richard and William King, possibly members of Roger's family. No child named Edmund seems to appear however. In the 1650s and 1660s, another Edmund is having children, this time along with a Thomas and a William.

There seems to be some indications, so far just looking at catalogue entries, that the Kings of Alton may have been related to nearby Kings in Upton Gray, Weston Patrick, Odiham, Warnborough, Nately and perhaps Crondall. The surnames Hunt and Lee, seen together with the Kings in Headley, often seem to appear in these records (as do the surnames Wheeler and Reeves). For example, 39M67/44 of 1639 mentions John King of Weston, a name which appears in many land records in the 1600s (there must been several generations), along with a person of the surname Christmas - an unusual surname also mentioned in the will above from Alton, of Edmund King the elder. It also mentions an Edward Heighes esq, of Binsted, possibly related to the Heighes ladies mentioned above, also in connection with the Alton records we have, as well as a person with the surname Knight which was a common surname, but again one found in conjunction with seemingly related documents like 58M71/E/T168. These families were quite wealthy and their wills are mainly in the PCC category, held in Kew, for example:

Will of John Kinge, Yeoman of Weston Patrick, Hampshire     25 October 1622   PROB 11/140

Son John, with children: John, William, Elizabeth, Margery and Joane
Daughter Elizabeth Matthew with children: William, Margery, Anne? and Elizabeth
Daughter Joane Wither with children: John Reeve, Mary Reve, Bernard Reve, Joane Wither. 79A04/1 mentions that Johane the wife of James Wyther of Basingstoke, grocer, was "late the wife of John Reve, son of Adam Reve".
Wife Margery King
Overseers: beloved friends John Eggar of Crondall and Thomas Kinge of Upton Grey. (Which shows that the Kings of Upton Grey and Weston Patrick were at least friends.)

Will of John Kinge, Gentleman of Weston Patrick, Hampshire  08 July 1641      PROB 11/186

Had land in Alton amongst other places including Sussex, and mentions both malt and brewing kettles
Sons William, John and Joseph; also a daughter Jane or Joane? It could be that this son John was one who took up property in Upton Grey. See for example 63M72/T14 of 1635.
Grandchildren William and John Newman
Wife Marie.
Overseers John Breres, gent, Richard Hooke, gent, [possibly a relative of the brother-in-law of John Pym?] and brother James Wythers

Will of Anne King, Widow of Upton Gray, Hampshire     04 November 1646  PROB 11/198

Son Robert (see next will), and also 3M51/402-418
Cousin Barnard Hunt, "son of my sister", with sons John, Barnard, Humfrie, and William.
William Cleeve and Robert Lee occupying one of her properties.
Servant Anne King.
Kinsman James King.
Cousin Johan Shoare
Servant Roger Gregory

Will of Robert King, Yeoman of Upton Gray, Hampshire  20 October 1652   PROB 11/223 and PROB 11/224

Has property in Upton Grey, Up Nately, Alton and Odiham.
Barnard Hunt "my mother's sister's son" with four sons Humphrey, William, John and Barnard
Edward Rainyer? of Alton. (It would be Rainger or Ranger. For this Hunt family see 3M51/402-418, 15M80/E/T7, 15M80/E/T9 etc)
William Knight son of William Knight of Yappen in Sussex, and his sister Elizabeth, "both which are now living together with me"
Isabell Wheeler wife of Nicholas Wheeler of Bensteed, yeoman. See 3M51/398-399 which mentions that Isabell's maiden name was Knight, and that she was "described as 'nephew' to Robert's wife, Joan".
Francis King wife of William King
Thomas King of Upton Grey
Godchildren: Henry Lee, Robert Wynhall son of Walter Wynhall of Odiham, William Missingham of Hillsyde in Odiham, Blacksmith, Henry Grene son of Thomas Grene of Odiham, Margaret Couper wife of Nicholas Couper and their son Robert, Johane Scott wife of William Scott of Alton and their son William,
Wife Joan. See 3M51/419 which mentions that she re-married William Reves of Crondall, yeoman.
Servants and ex-servants: Thomas Wylce, Margerie Rawlins, Thomas White, Roger Gregory, Thomasine Lane

The Kings where clearly in at least Weston Patrick and Crondall right back to around 1500. For example there is a will 1508B/07 for John King (Kyng) of Weston Patrick, Hampshire and 1530B/24 is a will of William King of Crondall, Hampshire. The earliest sighting in Upton Grey so far is 1580B/45 which is a 1580 will and inventory of Elizabeth King of Upton Grey, Hampshire, widow. Both chronologically and geographically, I suppose it is most likely that both the Upton Grey family and the Alton/Herriard family are off-shoots of the Weston Patrick family.

So it seems very likely that the King family of the area, even if all related, was quite dispersed by the time we find one of them, it seems, in Headley.

9. The Hartley or Hartly family of Terwick in Sussex.
As mentioned above, it is generally thought that Roger King's wife Rose is Rose Hartly, of Terwick in nearby Sussex, and that they were married there 8 Nov 1715. Roger was called a resident of Liss, Hampshire in that register, which is close to Headley, although he certainly already had a connection to Headley. This seems a reasonable suggestion. Rose's baptism does not however appear in Terwick registers. In the Sussex parishes around Terwick I find the following Hartleys on the IGI:-

Harting: William son of Thomas Hartley bapt. 24 MAR 1652 and buried 28th.

Iping: William son of Richard Hartley bapt. 18 JAN 1655
Terwick: Richard son of Richard Hartley bapt. 05 APR 1674;
Trotton: Patience daughter of Richard Hartley bapt. 28 FEB 1676
Rogate: William son of Richard Hartley bapt. 30 SEP 1677

Terwick: John son of Thomas Hartley bapt. 27 JAN 1678;
Terwick: Richard son of Thomas and Elizabeth Hartley bapt 12 FEB 1682;
Terwick: Thomas son of Thomas Hartley bapt. 1688.

The first Thomas in Harting, a yeoman, appears to have left a PCC will dated 1654. In this will he mentions an eldest son Thomas, a second son Richard, and a daughter Rose. All three are under 21. We further learn that Rose is also the name of the wife of Thomas sr. and she is still alive; and that Thomas has a brother Richard Hartly of Ipinge, and a brother in law named John Callews. We can find a baptism in Iping for Richard's son William 18 JAN 1655. It also appears from the Harting register that "Roase Hartley" (presumably either the mother or daughter) married or re-married in Harting soon after, to Thomas Penn, 18 OCT 1654. Because the daughter may still have been quite young, and because the marriage later in Terwick was for a spinster named Rose, I believe the marriage in Harting was the widowed mother, whose maiden name is presumably something like Callows.

So the parents of Rose were probably named Thomas Hartley and Rose Callows, and they apparently lived, or came to live, in Harting. The family was reasonably well off and apparently moved around a bit, so it may have been a family with a trade or business. It certainly seems likely that we can learn more about them.

10. The Hunt family.
As mentioned above, Susannah Hunt married Christopher King, 18 May 1672.

The surname Hunt can be found in Headley back into medieval times, but Susannah Hunt's baptism does not appear in Headley records. There are signs that like the Kings, the Hunts owned land in several parishes, including Binsted, during this period. For example Hampshire document 57M78/E/T380 mentions a Hunt family who held land in Binsted over several generations, and with possession passed on to Hunt relatives living in Frensham and Headley in the late 1700s: Nicholas Hunt of Binsted, yeoman, 1719; Mary Hunt of Frensham, widow, and John Hunt her son (and the grandson of Nicholas) of Headley, yeoman, 1793. Like some of the Kings of the area they seem to have had dealings with Nicholas Wheeler of Binsted, and to have had links to places near Alton and Odiham. 3M51/202-209 of April 1692 mentions him and also Susan Hunt of Binsted, spinster, in the context of 3 closes called Jude Grove.

Unfortunately, at least on indexes I have looked at so far, the only Susanna baptism in Bentley to note is 12 NOV 1669, just a couple of years before the wedding. The parents were John and Mary.

I therefore looked at wills. There are many such Binsted Hunt wills, going back to 1531. :-

• 1661A/062, Will and inventory of John Hunt (Huntt), sen, of Binsted, Hampshire, yeoman. John names his living wife, Sarah, and his son and heir John junior. Does not mention other children but seems to have had some. He has a grandchild named John Mathew. Overseers are his kinsmen John Buckes(?) and John Lock both of Isington.

• 1663A/059, Will and inventory of Thomas Hunt of Binsted, Hampshire, yeoman. Thomas names sons Thomas, Henry, and John. Names Richard Cooper and Henry Smyth, yeomen of Bensted. Also names one Nicholas Hunt of Bensted, a yeoman, but does not name the relationship. Lands passed on include Stroadens, Crockenfeild, Lipscombesffould, Hillcroft, Wadford, Ancrofts. Has a daughter named Susan (not yet 21). A Joane Hunt left her mark as a witness.

• 1666B/28, Will and inventory of James Hunt of Binsted, Hampshire, tanner. James names sons John, Thomas, Joseph, and daughters Joane Lee (a widow with sons Henry and John), Elizabeth Readinge, and Rebecca Trymer (married 18 JUL 1659 then). He also names as friends in Bensted one Richard Cooper, yeoman, and one John Hawkins, weaver.

• 1670A/063, Will and inventory of Joan Hunt of Binsted, Hampshire, spinster. Joan had a brother John, and she names his eldest son as another John, his youngest son as Henry, and his daughter as Susanna Hunt. This is the best lead we have. Joan names two god-daughters also: Ann Cooper and Joane Mathew. And she names two Bented widows: Joane Fferder and Barbara Whiteland. A Richard Cooper signs both the testament and the inventory. (Concerning Coopers, a Thomas Hunt married a Mary Cooper in Binsted 6 FEB 1666.)

• 1680B/28, Will and inventory of John Hunt of Issington, Binsted, Hampshire, tanner. Wife is Mary. Children James (main heir) and John, Elizabeth and Ann. Also mentions daughter named Rebecka who is married to John Blakman. Mentions West Feild in Benstead and a place called Stone(?) Closes, amongst other land. Inventory signed by a Thomas Hunt.

• 1686A/044 Will and inventory of Christmas Hunt of Petersfield, Hampshire, carpenter. Daughters are Francis and Anne. Sons are Stephen and Thomas.

• 1686A/045. Will and inventory of Nicholas Hunt of Binsted, Hampshire, yeoman, has been checked, but though his wife was named Susannah, none of his children are. Son is Nicholas (not yet 21). Younger sons John and Thomas. Daughter is Anne Hunt (also not yet 21). Servant Anne Vanner. Overseers Samuel Woodford and Henry Christmas. Land called East Lands is mentioned. A Thomas Hunt signs the testament.

• 1691B/18 Will of Sarah Hunt of Alton, Hampshire, spinster. Cousin Sarah Greene to be executor.

• 1691A/059 Will and inventory of James Hunt of Froyle, Hampshire. James was married to a Mary and had a son named James.

• 1701A/053 Will and inventory of Nathan Hunt of Headley, Hampshire. Nathan's wife is Joan and his brother is Joshua. Possibly also siblings are John Hunt, Mary Hunt and Ann Woodger. He specially mentions all the children of the late Thomas Ffinden of Sutton.

APPENDIX. The Broughton Families sometimes thought to be linked to the King family of Headley.

The LDS Ancestral File of Judy Morgan mentioned above gives a family tree which asserts a movement of this family from Broughton, which was far to the west of Headley. It also says that the mother of these Headley children was named Rose. Having worked on this tree, I have kept an interest although I no longer think they are connected with the Kings of Hampshire as originally proposed.

1. Roger KING (AFN: 1SFT-K6M). [The NBI shows a burial for a man of this name 20 Oct 1695 in Broughton. He was apparently an Anabapist and referred to as Roger King senior. There is also a document 11M79/E/T2 which mentions both a Roger Kinge the elder of Broughton and a Roger King the younger, in 1684. A connected document, 11M79/E/T1 (these two documents concerning a trust to endow a schoolmaster) shows that Roger the elder was alive in 1655. So there might be another Roger one step further back in this family tree. This Roger was possibly married to a Catherine, because a Catharine, wife of Roger King, was buried in Broughton 2 Apr 1682. Based upon the burial of several children of a Roger King, he was having children in the 1630s and 40s. Concerning Roger who married Joanne Abbott, his will is 1714B/30. It mentions his wife Joan, sons Thomas (with children Thomas, William and Katherine), and Roger (to receive Hide Field).]

Married Joane ABBOTT (AFN: 1SFT-K7T) 13 Feb 1669, Broughton, Hampshire.
Children's baptisms is Broughton...

1.1. Roger KING (AFN:1SFT-K82). Baptised 30 Nov 1669. [Roger s Roger King buried 25 Dec 1671 age inf Parish Broughton]
1.2. Thomas KING (AFN:1SFT-K98). Baptised  24 Feb 1673.
1.3. Roger KING (AFN:1SFT-JX1). Baptised  9 May 1677. [Perhaps buried 18 Oct 1718 in Headley (Roger senior). A will exists 1718A/47 - Will of Roger King of Headley, Hampshire - and also an inventory 21M65/D3/616. It would be interesting to compare to 1714B/30 - Will of Roger King of Broughton, Hampshire, yeoman - and 1728B/062 - Will and renunciation of Roger King of Broughton, Hampshire, Wheelwright (mentions wife Sarah, sons Roger and Joseph, brother-in-law Henry Hathat.]

Married Sarah HATHATT (AFN: 1SFT-JZ7), 24 Dec 1700, in Broughton. [The NBI shows a burial for a woman of the right name 20 Apr 1748 in Broughton. Hampshire Record Office have some Hattatt Family Histories, 13M92 and 54M92. Unfortunately I have only been able to have 54M92 checked so far, which contains no pedigrees earlier than 1697, and nothing specifically about Broughton? In any case it mentions the baptism of a Sarah at Over Wallop, near Broughton, to Edward Hatat, and Mary nee Hide. On the other hand the family were clearly in Broughton earlier, as shown by the following references to wills in the Hampshire Record Office, and the PRO in Kew:

1546B/085    Will of Harry Hattat (Hautat) of Broughton, Hampshire    1546   
1558B/109    Will and inventory of Elizabeth Hattat (Hawtat) of Broughton, Hampshire, widow    1558   
1567B/037    Will and inventory of Henry Hattat (Hawtat) of Broughton, Hampshire    1567   
1585A/058    Will and inventory of John Hattat (Hawted) of Broughton, Hampshire    1585   
1588A/036    Will and inventory of Ellen Hatchett (Hatchat) of Nether Wallop, Hampshire, widow    1588   
1606A/26    Will and inventory of John Hattat (Hawtut) of Broughton, Hampshire, husbandman    1606    (a son of a Henry? see below)
PROB 11/427    PCC will of 1695. Will of Edward Hattat , Yeoman of Nether Wallop, Hampshire.

Mentions; Joan Hattat, mother, Edward Hattat, son; Thomas Gale, godson; Elizabeth Hattat, wife; trustees Thomas Dowse of Nether Wallop, Esqr. and Peter Noyce of West Cholderton.

1714AD/049    Probate inventory and court paper of John Hattat (Hathat) of Broughton, Hampshire    1714   
1725A/047    Will of Henry Hattat of Broughton, Hampshire, Tailor[Son John, wife Amey, daughters, Sarah, Elizabeth, (both <21) and Mary wife of William Lovewell, with daughter Elizabeth.]
5M50/2457FILE (not a will) - Counterpart of trust deed of feoffment from John Mersh senior of Broughton, surviving trustee of trust originally established by Thomas Dowse of Salisbury, Esq., by deed of 24 April 1601 for the maintenance of a schoolmaster to teach the children of the inhabitants of Broughton "to read, write and cast accounts", to John Mersh junior, William Mersh, Henry Mersh, Moses Gale, John Thurston, John Hattat (son of Henry Hattat, dec'd.), Thomas Etheridge the elder, George Goddard, William Kelsey the elder, John Mersh (son of Richard Mersh, dec'd) of Broughton, and John Bayley, wheelwright, and William Gale, cordwainer -   - date: 7 February 1735

A Robert Hathatt late of Broughton also occurs in a 1680 indenture by Thomas Thomas of Hursley and John Bedford of Broughton (72M80/TI).]
Children's baptisms in Broughton...

1.3.1. Roger KING (AFN:1SFT-JM5). 18 Sep 1701. 

Married Rose HARTLY (AFN: 1SFT-JNC), 8 Nov 1715, in Terwick, Sussex? (Probably not. See above.)

1.3.2. Daniel KING (AFN:1SFT-K0D). 8 Jun 1704.
1.3.3. Joseph KING (AFN:1SFT-K1L). 10 Oct 1706.
1.3.4. Henry KING (AFN:1SFT-K2S). 19 Aug 1708.
1.3.5. Joyce KING (AFN:1SFT-K31).19 Oct 1710.
1.3.6. Sarah KING (AFN:1SFT-K47). 25 Oct 1713.
1.3.7. William KING (AFN:1SFT-K5F). 9 Oct 1718.

1.4. Joanna KING (AFN:1SFT-KBG). Baptised 4 Mar 1679.

The Abbot Family of Broughton.

Joanne Abbot married Roger King in 1669 in Broughton, according to the LDS ancestral file. A few snippets of suggestive information about this family seem worth recording...

First, the Broughton baptismal registers from 1639 are transcribed into the IGI in batches K136961 and J136961. These contain many Abbots (with various spellings) but before 1663, when a couple named John and Mary Abbot starting having children baptised, only one small set of baptisms, starting just as the register begins, all with parents named Henry and Catherine:

1. JOANE ABBOTT 20 MAR 1641 Broughton, Hampshire, England
2. MARY ABBOTT 06 DEC 1646 Broughton, Hampshire, England
3. EDWARD ABBOTT 03 AUG 1648 Broughton, Hampshire, England

Second, the IGI also contains some unreferenced entries made by LDS members concerning wills. Further examination, using the Hampshire Records Office Online Catalogue and the PCC index on the National Archives website leads to the following...

1656 PCC probate, PROB 11/258. Will of Robert Hart, Husbandman of Broughton, Hampshire. Mentions:

Mother Elizabeth Hart
Brother Walter Hart
Sister Ursula Hart
Godchild Katherine Abbott
"Brother Robert Mersh" and "sister-in-law Emme Mersh widdow" (note: various Mersh documents mentioning surnames, Hatatt, King, Hart, Abbott, seem to show a consistent connection)
His wife Edith Hart to be executor
Kinsman Robert Edington of Edmiston
Kinswoman widdow Gram of Edmiston
Kinswoman widdow Welloway of Wallop
Kinsman and Godson Robert Welloway
Loveing friend Roger King of Bentley, to be overseer  [This is very interesting because Bentley is near Alton and Headley.]

[It looks like he might not have had children? There is a 1654 PCC will of a Thomas Mersh, Yeoman of Broughton, Hampshire, PROB 11/234. Mentions son Richard, daughter Jane Gotsole?, daughter Ellen? Steele, daughter Phillis Betheridg, daughter Malyn Mersh, overseers Roger Kinge and George Borolinge, grandchildren (<21) Ellen Steele and William Betheridge. See 5M58/230-244: Title deeds of parcel of wood or coppice (18a 3r 39p) called Bernards Coppice and pasture (6a 10p) called Bernards Mead in East Tytherley [both mentioned in the 1654 will] bought by William Steele Wakeford from John Hattat of Broughton. Possibly dated 1591?]

Possibly corresponding to record 1649A/01 at the Hampshire RO...

Hinry Abbut.
Will: 04 MAR 1649 Of, Broughton, Hampshire, England
Father:        Hinry Abbut  
Mother:      Cattaren Mrs Abbut

[This probably indicates that the baptisms we found with parents Henry and Catherine above are only the last of a long line going before 1639, and including this Henry was must have been an adult only a few years after those baptisms.]

Henrie Abbott.
Will: 31 JAN 1631 Of, Broughton, Hampshire, England
Mother name = Elizabeth

[Because the husband of Catherine mentioned above was still having children baptised into the 1640s, this might be his father. And Elizabeth would therefore be his grandmother. On the other hand it is conceivable that, for example, this is the husband of Catherine, writing his will early.]

Henry Abbott
Will: 28 APR 1630 Of, Broughton, Hampshire, England
Spouse name = Hart

[This turns out to be a will for one James Hart of Broughton, yeoman, who mentions Henry as his son-in-law (1631A/033). It mentions daughter Elizabeth Miller of Cholderton, apparently married to Richard, son-in-law Henry Abbott, wife Elizabeth, brothers Thomas and John, and other children Joane Weeks? and Christian House? Hampshire Record Office have documents under 202M85/5/1/27 which is a "Bond for the administration of the will of James Hart of Broughton, by Elizabeth Hart of Broughton, widow and Richard Miller of Cholderton, yeoman". These are short pre-written forms, which correspond to the will. The will of Elizabeth Hart is 1633B/28, made in 1631, and mentions daughter Elizabeth Miller, son Henrie Abbott, daughter Jone Hart, etc.]

Possibly corresponding to record 1611A/001 at the Hampshire RO...

HENRI ABBATE
Will: 27 FEB 1610 Of, Broughton, Hampshire, England
Father:       HENRI ABBATE 
Mother:      ELIZABETH
Spouse = Elizabeth

[The younger couple named Henry and Elizabeth are presumably the parents of the man who made his wills in 1630 and 1631.]

Henrie Abbot  - International Genealogical Index
Will: 09 FEB 1609 Of, Winchester, Hampshire, England

[Again this is possibly just an earlier will by the same person who made the will of 1610. Being prudent about wills seems to have been important to this family! But can we presume that he moved from Winchester to Broughton? There is about 10 miles between them.]

Another will and inventory at Hampshire Records office...

1598A/001. Will and inventory of Henry Abbott (Abbate) of Broughton, Hampshire, husbandman

Still earlier, a 1511 Latin PCC will, PROB 11/17, of Robertus Abbott, Yeoman of Broughton, Hampshire. Mentions:

Children Robert, Henry, Edward, Edith.
Wife Johanna.

Third, if we take it that the above entries represent the efforts of someone who had a reason to be looking at both Broughton and, earlier, Winchester, these earlier Winchester register entries might be interesting...

HENRY ABBAT  Marriage to JEAN STYRT: 24 NOV 1565 Saint Maurice, Winchester. [See also the NBI: "Jane w Henry Abut buried 10 Feb 1609 age - Parish Winchester St Maurice".]
HENRIE ABUT Christening: 25 SEP 1566 Saint Maurice, Winchester, Hampshire.

Fourthly, there is a much earlier Broughton Abbot will: 1551B/01. Will and inventory of Margary Abbot of Broughton, Hampshire, widow.

By the way, given the anabaptist burial mentioned above for Roger King in 1695, it is interesting that "A licence 'to use the house of Henry Abbott as an Anabaptist meeting-house' was granted in 1672." The National Burial Index also informs us about "Henry senr anabaptist Abbott buried 31 Mar 1701".